Apple TV 4K (2021 vs 2022)

[MentellusMaximus]

That’s EXACTLY what I said.

No it is not.

You cannot even read and understand your own posts

 

[SauRoNZA]

I’m not really understanding?

In my case I’ve got it hardwired as that’s the global preferred way . But I should unplug and rather use WiFi because it’s ‘good enough’?

And we could really have stuck with WiFi N because it’s ‘good enough’? And therefore if you have the option to use Ethernet - you shouldn’t ?

Sometimes I think you’re just disagreeing with everything for the hell of it

If you already had Ethernet there by all means use it.

But there is no logical reason to specially lay Ethernet or buy a unit that has it for a streaming box.

It’s simply unnecessary.

But that logic every mobile phone and tablet should have Ethernet because it’s so absolutely necessary while consuming even more content in various ways.

It’s simply not a requirement.

 

[Dolby]

No it is not.

You cannot even read and understand your own posts

Um. Ok

 

[SauRoNZA]

For sure. And lucky for us, most businesses and system admin also prefer wired. Can you imagine Investec running on WiFI only because they didn’t want to run wires?

I’m not here to convince you of the preferred choice at all. Most people know what it is - or can Google.

You’re more than welcome to believe and use what you want I obviously just think it’s pretty poor advice to tell people to rather use WiFi over the 1gb Ethernet port .

So you’ll find Investec is in fact all wireless…so jokes on you.

Most modern companies are all wireless.

Wired is simply not a thing any more; it just doesn’t make any sense. It’s expensive to implement and operate for very little benefit.

The only thing wired in modern companies is the backhaul that nobody else sees.

 

[SauRoNZA]

Well my question was more if there might be problems with wifi. Me and most people probably know the benefits of ethernet and i also think most people don't want to run cables through the house everywhere. Is that not the whole point of wifi? Plug and play. Me and my son played online shooter games during Covid, so we ran 2 ethernet cables to opposite sides of the house to our pc's to make sure everything is optimum. But I prefer not to run cables for everything, just if it's necessary, that was more the question. Will there ever potentially be a need for a ethernet port vs A15 over A12 Bionic chip.

No issues at all.

I run 2 x Apple TV’s and 58 wireless devices in my house without any issues at all.

Assuming of course you have decent WiFi coverage where you are installing it.

 

[Dolby]

So you’ll find Investec is in fact all wireless…so jokes on you.

Most modern companies are all wireless.

Wired is simply not a thing any more; it just doesn’t make any sense. It’s expensive to implement and operate for very little benefit.

No - they’re not.

Why don’t you PM me who you think you know within Investec, we can sort it out and you can come back and report how ‘right’ you sure ?

 

[SauRoNZA]

No - they’re not.

Why don’t you PM me who you think you know within Investec, we can sort it out and you can come back and report how ‘right’ you sure ?

My bad I confused Coronation with Investec.

And while I know people at Investec I’m not going to reach out to them to ask about something as inane as this to win an internet fight.

Fact is if Investec put up a new office tomorrow it will be all wireless to their clients because Ethernet to every desk just doesn’t make sense any more.

Regardless as someone in the industry who has built and managed the networks of a number of large companies I can matter of factly tell you, along with a few others here that wireless is the way of modern enterprise…and even more so home networks and has been for at least the last ten years.

 

[Dolby]

If you already had Ethernet there by all means use it.

But there is no logical reason to specially lay Ethernet or buy a unit that has it for a streaming box.

It’s simply unnecessary.

But that logic every mobile phone and tablet should have Ethernet because it’s so absolutely necessary while consuming even more content in various ways.

It’s simply not a requirement.

Well my question was more if there might be problems with wifi. Me and most people probably know the benefits of ethernet and i also think most people don't want to run cables through the house everywhere. Is that not the whole point of wifi? Plug and play. Me and my son played online shooter games during Covid, so we ran 2 ethernet cables to opposite sides of the house to our pc's to make sure everything is optimum. But I prefer not to run cables for everything, just if it's necessary, that was more the question. Will there ever potentially be a need for a ethernet port vs A15 over A12 Bionic chip.

Did Apple put out a note to say WiFi if the best or something?

I know you think you’re super smart, but you’re really just arguing for the sake of arguing.

You know nothing about his environment, his house, his needs - to simply say ‘go WiFi’ purely to argue a point is stupid.

Go look at the number of people that buy USB >>> Ethernet extenders because WiFi didn’t work for them?

Yes WiFi is great assuming coverage etc etc - but Ethernet is better assuming it’s nearby

 

[SauRoNZA]

Did Apple put out a note to say WiFi if the best or something?

I know you think you’re super smart, but you’re really just arguing for the sake of arguing.

You know nothing about his environment, his house, his needs - to simply say ‘go WiFi’ purely to argue a point is stupid.

Go look at the number of people that buy USB >>> Ethernet extenders because WiFi didn’t work for them?

Yes WiFi is great assuming coverage etc etc - but Ethernet is better assuming it’s nearby

And here we are once again where Dolby stands alone on his own fighting numerous people and the entire internet just to be right.

It’s frankly quite amazing.

You are the one arguing for the sake of arguing mate, while numerous people with more exposure doing this as a day job have already told you that you are wrong.

Obviously the assumption is that WiFi is decent where he wants to put the box, he wouldn’t have asked the question otherwise.

Your statement about Apple is extra funny because you realise they’ve been all wireless for more than a decade, right? You think the fact they removed the Ethernet ports from all their devices isn’t that exact statement?

 

[SauRoNZA]

I’m sitting on the toilet with a 400mbit down and 500mbit up link to my phone while under “poor” signal, but sure let’s break out the Ethernet and run a cable underneath the door because that makes more sense.

 

[Jean Claude Vaaldamme]

And here we are once again where Dolby stands alone on his own fighting numerous people and the entire internet just to be right.

It’s frankly quite amazing.

You are the one arguing for the sake of arguing mate, while numerous people with more exposure doing this as a day job have already told you that you are wrong.

Obviously the assumption is that WiFi is decent where he wants to put the box, he wouldn’t have asked the question otherwise.

Your statement about Apple is extra funny because you realise they’ve been all wireless for more than a decade, right? You think the fact they removed the Ethernet ports from all their devices isn’t that exact statement?

Yes in my very first post I said that my other android boxes run on wifi without issues. So no wifi issues in my house, guess he missed it. It was more a question of is a ethernet port important enough for the chance of maybe running into some problems later on, to justify getting older model over new one

 

[Dolby]

And here we are once again where Dolby stands alone on his own fighting numerous people and the entire internet just to be right.

It’s frankly quite amazing.

You are the one arguing for the sake of arguing mate, while numerous people with more exposure doing this as a day job have already told you that you are wrong.

Obviously the assumption is that WiFi is decent where he wants to put the box, he wouldn’t have asked the question otherwise.

Your statement about Apple is extra funny because you realise they’ve been all wireless for more than a decade, right? You think the fact they removed the Ethernet ports from all their devices isn’t that exact statement?

1) It’s the Apple part of the forum. I’ll never be right here ? We both know that - but I don’t care too much

2) People with more exposure? You think? Because you know who I am, right? And you know what everyone else does, right?

And yes, you’ve dropped a few times about how rich & important you are *yawn* How you have managed 1000s of users and my personal favourite - how I am ‘wrong’ and/or ‘lying’ about something I’ve done (well) for 2 decades because, well, I don’t know. But that was the first time I thought ‘this guy doesn’t know as much as he claims online …’

3) And my assumption is that laying an Ethernet cable isn’t tough to do. Guess we both assume ? Or only you because it suits whatever you’re trying to push?

4) My statement about Apple is because you stand behind them, regardless of what they say or do. And because you’re so pro WiFi, I could only assume that Apple had something to do with it.

And it turns out I’m right …

 

[Dolby]

I’m sitting on the toilet with a 400mbit down and 500mbit up link to my phone while under “poor” signal, but sure let’s break out the Ethernet and run a cable underneath the door because that makes more sense.

You have multiple Ubiquit right?

 

[Jean Claude Vaaldamme]

The apple tv will actually stand about 4m from ont and router with no walls or anything. So there will be no problem now. I am more worried about maybe moving etc. If having a ethernet option is really worth it

 

[backstreetboy]

The apple tv will actually stand about 4m from ont and router with no walls or anything. So there will be no problem now. I am more worried about maybe moving etc. If having a ethernet option is really worth it

Just use the money saved and add another mesh router then.

 

[SauRoNZA]

Yes in my very first post I said that my other android boxes run on wifi without issues. So no wifi issues in my house, guess he missed it. It was more a question of is a ethernet port important enough for the chance of maybe running into some problems later on, to justify getting older model over new one

Definitely not.

The odds of the wireless card dying is exactly the same odds as the Ethernet port.

Actually Ethernet port is more likely if you are in a lighting risk area.

 

[Dolby]

If having a ethernet option is really worth it

Like I say, the option in having an Ethernet port is handy. I’ve probably used 20 of these devices , dealt 1st hand with the factory’s and have a decent ‘hand’ in a lot of the working.

You have no idea how many people bought a WiFi only steaming system and then realised afterwards they want Ethernet.

 

[Dolby]

Just use the money saved and add another mesh router then.

So save the R900 on not getting Ethernet - and spend the same money on getting a mesh router?

Sounds great

 

[MentellusMaximus]

1) It’s the Apple part of the forum. I’ll never be right here ? We both know that - but I don’t care too much

2) People with more exposure? You think? Because you know who I am, right? And you know what everyone else does, right?

And yes, you’ve dropped a few times about how rich & important you are *yawn* How you have managed 1000s of users and my personal favourite - how I am ‘wrong’ and/or ‘lying’ about something I’ve done (well) for 2 decades because, well, I don’t know. But that was the first time I thought ‘this guy doesn’t know as much as he claims online …’

3) And my assumption is that laying an Ethernet cable isn’t tough to do. Guess we both assume ? Or only you because it suits whatever you’re trying to push?

4) My statement about Apple is because you stand behind them, regardless of what they say or do. And because you’re so pro WiFi, I could only assume that Apple had something to do with it.

And it turns out I’m right …

Only in your head, but if that works for you.

You just need to argue, and need to get the last word, or be the victim if you cannot.

Your ignorance is staggering.

 

[SauRoNZA]

1) It’s the Apple part of the forum. I’ll never be right here ? We both know that - but I don’t care too much

2) People with more exposure? You think? Because you know who I am, right? And you know what everyone else does, right?

And yes, you’ve dropped a few times about how rich & important you are *yawn* How you have managed 1000s of users and my personal favourite - how I am ‘wrong’ and/or ‘lying’ about something I’ve done (well) for 2 decades because, well, I don’t know. But that was the first time I thought ‘this guy doesn’t know as much as he claims online …’

3) And my assumption is that laying an Ethernet cable isn’t tough to do. Guess we both assume ? Or only you because it suits whatever you’re trying to push?

4) My statement about Apple is because you stand behind them, regardless of what they say or do. And because you’re so pro WiFi, I could only assume that Apple had something to do with it.

And it turns out I’m right …

Right about what?

It has nothing at all to do with Apple.

If you don’t believe us and it bothers you so much go make an open poll for all of MyBroadband asking if their company provides them with an Ethernet or wireless connection.

And don’t go blurring the lines as you usually do baffling with bullshit. We are talking about strictly end points, obviously the backhaul has to be wired.