Which Router for High Throughput PPPoE

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DStvNothingOn

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Hi All,

With the recent spate of FNO speed upgrades my trusty Edge Router X is starting to take strain.
It's current max throughput is around 300mbps, I have tired hardware offloading but have found the instability trade off to make it not worth it. With the PPPoE overheads
I am at relative low speed of 150/150 but fully utilised it so often run at throughputs of 280-290 mbps.
Looking at how things are moving assume there will be another speed upgrade in the future so want to future proof.

Ideally looking for a lower power unit that can run in 12V DC because you know load shedding.
some future proof so throughput of 500 - 750 if it can do full Gig that would be great but thinking that is more mini PC PFsense style or rack mounted which isn't ideal.

Anyone got any suggestions?
 
Another option is to install openwrt and try that with hardware and software ofloading.

Edit: looks like it should cover you for another upgrade or 2:

 
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DStvNothingOn said:
Hi All,

With the recent spate of FNO speed upgrades my trusty Edge Router X is starting to take strain.
It's current max throughput is around 300mbps, I have tired hardware offloading but have found the instability trade off to make it not worth it. With the PPPoE overheads
I am at relative low speed of 150/150 but fully utilised it so often run at throughputs of 280-290 mbps.
Looking at how things are moving assume there will be another speed upgrade in the future so want to future proof.

Ideally looking for a lower power unit that can run in 12V DC because you know load shedding.
some future proof so throughput of 500 - 750 if it can do full Gig that would be great but thinking that is more mini PC PFsense style or rack mounted which isn't ideal.

Anyone got any suggestions?
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Where are you located ?
I have a spare Mikrotik RB2011UiAS-RM - throughput I see on it has been 800+Mbps
 
Hesitantly ordered myself a BPi-R3 on Ali a month or 2 ago. Not cheap but value proposition is great. Currently running OpenWRT snapshot with of my own few tweaks. 5GHz wifi performance is insane. Get over 1gbit/s on my 2x2:2 laptop through thick reinforced concrete on iperf to the router. With pure software NAT (no flow offloading) and SQM maxing my 200meg line (GPON+PPPoE) has negligible CPU load impact.

Bought the antennae + casing + heatsink kit which took around 20 mins to assemble. With miniDLNA installed and a decent sized ext-HDD it is an excellent streaming device too and has an M2 PCIe slot so should be able to pop an NVMe in as well as 2x 2.5GbE SFPs.

Apart from the DIY assembly downsides are the antennae aren't fantastic (although easily replaceable), having to fork out for FedEx as I didn't feel like waiting for months for it to arrive and the supplied PSU has an annoying coil whine (fortunately have lots of 12V supplies lying around).

Still having a lot of fun playing with it. Docker with a Debian container really turns it into a mini home server. Happily pushes 90MB/s over Samba from my laptop on WiFi to the connected ext HDD.

My only regret is not buying another at the same time for my office.
 
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Anthro said:
Where are you located ?
I have a spare Mikrotik RB2011UiAS-RM - throughput I see on it has been 800+Mbps
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These are really underpowered boxes (single core, low clock speed), wouldn't recommend a RB2011 for routing anything more than 180-200 Mbps- and even that's a stretch for the CPU. Add some NAT/Firewall rules and it struggles even more.
 
websquadza said:
These are really underpowered boxes (single core, low clock speed), wouldn't recommend a RB2011 for routing anything more than 180-200 Mbps- and even that's a stretch for the CPU. Add some NAT/Firewall rules and it struggles even more.
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I have read that as well, what is your view on the RB4011?
its what I looking at settling on at this stage.
 
DStvNothingOn said:
I have read that as well, what is your view on the RB4011?
its what I looking at settling on at this stage.
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4011 is a great all rounder. Very powerful and stable platform. We have quite a few in production at clients as cpes and routers, as well as pops. Really great multi-gigabit platform (we've bench tested over 5 Gbps traffic generation through a 4011) without packet loss.

If you can get your hands on a 5009 though; you get a 64 bit CPU (and Router OS is 64 Bit, then runs on a translation layer to run on older 32 Bit devices, so future performance is going to be a no brainer). Add the faster CPU clock speeds and 2.5G ports; if you can get your hands on one, it's only about R500 more for significantly more value for money.
 
websquadza said:
4011 is a great all rounder. Very powerful and stable platform. We have quite a few in production at clients as cpes and routers, as well as pops. Really great multi-gigabit platform (we've bench tested over 5 Gbps traffic generation through a 4011) without packet loss.

If you can get your hands on a 5009 though; you get a 64 bit CPU (and Router OS is 64 Bit, then runs on a translation layer to run on older 32 Bit devices, so future performance is going to be a no brainer). Add the faster CPU clock speeds and 2.5G ports; if you can get your hands on one, it's only about R500 more for significantly more value for money.
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D said:
Cheap as chips! (The difference, that is.)
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thank you for the info.

the one thing pushing me to RB4011, is due to a spares department liquidation sale I found, I get the it at closer to the price difference :P at old new stock condition
 
DStvNothingOn said:
Ideally looking for a lower power unit that can run in 12V DC because you know load shedding.
some future proof so throughput of 500 - 750 if it can do full Gig that would be great but thinking that is more mini PC PFsense style or rack mounted which isn't ideal.
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You're not going to find a 12V router with high performance. That high performance comes at a cost, and that cost is electrical power.
 
websquadza said:
These are really underpowered boxes (single core, low clock speed), wouldn't recommend a RB2011 for routing anything more than 180-200 Mbps- and even that's a stretch for the CPU. Add some NAT/Firewall rules and it struggles even more.
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And here I am thinking the Zyxel WebAfrica gives out is cheap sht.

Seems to have zero issues at 400mbps at least.
 
deweyzeph said:
You're not going to find a 12V router with high performance. That high performance comes at a cost, and that cost is electrical power.
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I could have worded it better, have an external power supply, 12v, 24v doesn't matter.
12V at 3A is still up to 36W.
Which a fair amount of power for a home router. Even more so when its a wired router with no radio using power.
 
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