Which of these two coffee machines would you buy?

Which coffee machine would you buy?

  • Delonghi Eletta Explore

    Votes: 9 45.0%

  • Sage Barista Touch Impress

    Votes: 5 25.0%

  • Something else (please share)

    Votes: 6 30.0%
  • Total voters
    20
The_David said:
I have the barista touch impress and the name says it all. Its frikken amazing. It satisfies my need of trying to get into the whole home barrista, without needing to spend 100k on insanely expensive equipment. But also does not over complicate it for my wife who is not as enthusiastic to get into coffee making.
You get a lot tinkering options with the grind size and setting up custom coffee drinks. You cant play with things like brew pressure or exact temps but I am not really going that deep into coffee making.
The internal grinder is the same as the Baratza encore, which is a decent grinder.

I am truly happy with chosing this. Otherwise i was looking to split with a Gaggia and try find a grinder in my budget with what was left over, Aiming for the Fellow Ode.

Check out Lance Hedricks review. Note he is aligned with Breville in helping them design better machines.
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Okay.... i need another cup of coffee. See in 20 minutes

/breville express
 
Foxhound5366 said:
I get the screen is different, but it seems serviceable based on what I’ve seen online and is still a lot better than no screen at all.

Seeing as the Oracle is R32 000 or so … not sure I can justify that as a starter machine. Not yet anyway. The lottery keeps on refusing to accept that I must be a winner.
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Worth a watch in your position I reckon.

Another option is going for the one without the screen altogether and saving yourself some money.
 
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Foxhound5366 said:
Contender 1: Delonghi Eletta Explore
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Delonghi - Eletta Explore Bean to Cup Coffee Machine - ECAM450.65.S

Behind its sleek silver-painted front, the New De'Longhi Eletta Explore automatic coffee maker offers 50+ hot, cold and Cold Brew drinks for you to discover.Enjoy automatic hot milk foam thanks to LatteCrema Hot Technology*, and refreshing cold and Cold Brew coffee drinks with LatteCrema Cool*...
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Contender 2: Sage Barista Touch Impress
www.sageappliances.com

the Barista Touch™ Impress • Espresso Machines | Sage

The Impress™ Puck System: made up of 3 components that make manual espresso-making easier than ever before without losing that hands-on feel. Experience the Breville difference today.
www.sageappliances.com www.sageappliances.com

It’s the old battle of Super Automatic vs Semi Automatic, with two of the latest contenders.

I’m curious whether anyone here has tried one or both? And have you gone from a Super Automatic towards a Semi Automatic, or gone the other way without regrets?

If you’d rather recommend something else altogether in the R20 000 price range, drop that here too.
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You should get one of these

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SauRoNZA said:

Worth a watch in your position I reckon.

Another option is going for the one without the screen altogether and saving yourself some money.
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Aah you’re not making it easier! I watched that video, and he mentions that the Oracle Jet’s pucks can be hard to knock out … so much so that he recommends the Sage “puck sucker” vacuum which we don’t seem to even get in SA. How have you found that?

As for the cost, sure. I guess if I didn’t have a spare R22 000 now for the Touch, then there’s no harm in also not having R32 000 for the Oracle Jet: https://bash.com/sage-the-oracle-je...d-stainless-steel-153301abbk4/p?idsku=2722241

Maybe I’ll start a Backabuddy, or hang around outside coffee shops looking sad and holding a hat strategically.
 
Foxhound5366 said:
Aah you’re not making it easier! I watched that video, and he mentions that the Oracle Jet’s pucks can be hard to knock out … so much so that he recommends the Sage “puck sucker” vacuum which we don’t seem to even get in SA. How have you found that?

As for the cost, sure. I guess if I didn’t have a spare R22 000 now for the Touch, then there’s no harm in also not having R32 000 for the Oracle Jet: https://bash.com/sage-the-oracle-je...d-stainless-steel-153301abbk4/p?idsku=2722241

Maybe I’ll start a Backabuddy, or hang around outside coffee shops looking sad and holding a hat strategically.
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I mean I've never had an espresso machine before, but I can't say that I've found it particularly challenging.

Maybe it's supposed to be much easier but I've found I usually get it knocked out in 2 tries if I failed to embrace my best abusive husband mantra.

Then again I have a BMW gearbox that requires similar treatment so maybe it just comes naturally to me.

I mean the 10k difference does seem staggering if all the real difference to you is the screen, for me it was not having to do anything manually and the screen was kind of a bonus.

As Jonathan said in isolation you probably won't notice the screen, it's more of a case for me of knowing there is newer and better and the moment I buy it they will release an updated model with the new screen.
 
SauRoNZA said:
I mean I've never had an espresso machine before, but I can't say that I've found it particularly challenging.

Maybe it's supposed to be much easier but I've found I usually get it knocked out in 2 tries if I failed to embrace my best abusive husband mantra.

Then again I have a BMW gearbox that requires similar treatment so maybe it just comes naturally to me.

I mean the 10k difference does seem staggering if all the real difference to you is the screen, for me it was not having to do anything manually and the screen was kind of a bonus.

As Jonathan said in isolation you probably won't notice the screen, it's more of a case for me of knowing there is newer and better and the moment I buy it they will release an updated model with the new screen.
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Wise words. I shall contemplate them over a mug of Jacob’s Origins Latin America.
 
Foxhound5366 said:
Another Jura fan. Why do you prefer the e8 over a semi-automatic by Sage? And if you’re going high-end, why not Gaggia?
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They have proven themselves to very reliable with plenty running +100k cups in commercial settings, spares are available in the rare occasion they are needed
 
I used to think Jura was great…but it’s really not all that and there’s no major point of difference between other brands.

It’s not anywhere on the same level as the Breville which is a real espresso machine, it’s just an expensive bean-to-cup.
 
SauRoNZA said:
I used to think Jura was great…but it’s really not all that and there’s no major point of difference between other brands.

It’s not anywhere on the same level as the Breville which is a real espresso machine, it’s just an expensive bean-to-cup.
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If you really wanna seem like a coffee snob, this would do the trick:
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Jura E6

Doesn't cost the earth (R15k on sale plus i had a R3.5k voucher) and makes a helluva cup.
 
Foxhound5366 said:
If you really wanna seem like a coffee snob, this would do the trick:
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Sometimes the devil is in the details what you need to look at , that Gaggia does max 11.5g shot, likes of the E8 16g, the Eletta sounds like 15g altho i could not find that in the manual. so just buying for name can backfire.
Another buying point to look at is the spout height if you like to use tall cups sometimes, this is an area the Jura's lack i find until you step up in model.
 
Tun@ said:
Sometimes the devil is in the details what you need to look at , that Gaggia does max 11.5g shot, likes of the E8 16g, the Eletta sounds like 15g altho i could not find that in the manual. so just buying for name can backfire.
Another buying point to look at is the spout height if you like to use tall cups sometimes, this is an area the Jura's lack i find until you step up in model.
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Yeah that’s a good point, and something I like about the Eletta is it comes with a tall metal to-go cup, and there’s a large “to-go” button right on the front screen so you are always one click away from coffee on the way out the door. The problem with the Eletta and a lot of other coffee machines is their touch screens are actually small and surrounded by lit up picture buttons that fake a larger screen. That’s not the case with the Sage Oracle Jet, which really does have the nicest screen I’ve seen on a modern coffee machine.
 
Foxhound5366 said:
Yeah that’s a good point, and something I like about the Eletta is it comes with a tall metal to-go cup, and there’s a large “to-go” button right on the front screen so you are always one click away from coffee on the way out the door. The problem with the Eletta and a lot of other coffee machines is their touch screens are actually small and surrounded by lit up picture buttons that fake a larger screen. That’s not the case with the Sage Oracle Jet, which really does have the nicest screen I’ve seen on a modern coffee machine.
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That is one thing I can say where the convenience wins out over the proper espresso machine is filling up my Le Creuset travel mug is now a bit of a mission.

With the Saeco it was a case of take the nozzle off and park it right under the spout and hit the button twice.

Now it’s do the double shot into a temporary vessel then transfer it and fill it up work not boiling water otherwise you burn your face off instantly.

Still, the difference in coffee quality is night and day.

When I got a Nespresso I became a coffee snob and said never again will
I use instant.

Then I got a bean-to-cup and I said never again will I use a Nespresso.

Now I got a proper Espresso machine I question how a bean-to-cup is even considered coffee.

I still love my mocha pot and the French press though.

Could kick myself now for not buying a Breville Barista Express 5 years ago when I had it on my wishlist.
 
SauRoNZA said:
That is one thing I can say where the convenience wins out over the proper espresso machine is filling up my Le Creuset travel mug is now a bit of a mission.

With the Saeco it was a case of take the nozzle off and park it right under the spout and hit the button twice.

Now it’s do the double shot into a temporary vessel then transfer it and fill it up work not boiling water otherwise you burn your face off instantly.

Still, the difference in coffee quality is night and day.

When I got a Nespresso I became a coffee snob and said never again will
I use instant.

Then I got a bean-to-cup and I said never again will I use a Nespresso.

Now I got a proper Espresso machine I question how a bean-to-cup is even considered coffee.

I still love my mocha pot and the French press though.

Could kick myself now for not buying a Breville Barista Express 5 years ago when I had it on my wishlist.
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What’s next for you? Bean infusion directly into a vein? Snortable coffee powder? There must be a higher level.
 
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