Chris Nolan's - The Odyssey.

[Mike7]

Bigly

https://twitter.com/x/status/2081397321502208236

 

[Mike7]

casting a woman who thinks its a man ???? The whole woke transgender rubbish being forced won our throats? You deny thats woke?

Nobody is forcing anything down your throat. He is a actor. He is not playing a transgender.

 

[Mephisto_Helix]

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[supersunbird]

casting a woman who thinks its a man ???? The whole woke transgender rubbish being forced won our throats? You deny thats woke?

Yes, I deny that is woke. Some person appearing in some minor role in some 172 minute movie for a total 6 minutes of screentime (not speaking time, and anything heroic) is not forcing anything down anything. It's not like it's Woke White or Ghostbusters (2016) or whatever.

The right for just made up nonsense that some person plays Achilles when they are not playing Achilles. The left makes up genders, the right makes up other lies.

 

[Azbubu]

Yes, I deny that is woke. Some person appearing in some minor role in some 172 minute movie for a total 6 minutes of screentime (not speaking time, and anything heroic) is not forcing anything down anything. It's not like it's Woke White or Ghostbusters (2016) or whatever.

The right for just made up nonsense that some person plays Achilles when they are not playing Achilles. The left makes up genders, the right makes up other lies.

So you don’t have an issue with a fictional character born by hatching out of the egg of a god disguised as a swan being portrayed by a black woman? So woke.

 

[NarrowBandFtw]

Nobody is forcing anything down your throat. He She is a an actor actress. He She is not playing a transgender.

ftfy

and on a point of order, nobody claimed she is playing a transgender, what is clear for the entire world to see however is a transgender is playing a man ...

 

[EthanMH]

ἔξελθε καὶ θιγὲ χόρτου

 

[Herr der Verboten]

So black trans jesus would be cool or white trans muhammad as long as its only 2 mins of 2 hours?

Spoiler: Amandla Awethu

Can't wait for the trans white Eugene Terriblache playing Nelson Mandela in a long walk to freedom reimagined for modern audiences

/runs for safe (s)hills.

 

[Herr der Verboten]

All of this makes me think of The people vs Larry Flynt for some reason………

 

[Herr der Verboten]

ftfy

and on a point of order, nobody claimed she is playing a transgender, what is clear for the entire world to see however is a transgender is playing a man ...

But men playing woman was a thing already since Shakespeare or even before that

 

[wbot]

So you don’t have an issue with a fictional character born by hatching out of the egg of a god disguised as a swan being portrayed by a black woman? So woke.

Fun fact: Homer never actually wrote that in his original poems. The swan/egg story was added much later by other writers like Euripides.

 

[Herr der Verboten]

Fun fact: Homer never actually wrote that in his original poems. The swan/egg story was added much later by other writers.

I blame the orphic egg

 

[Azbubu]

But men playing woman was a thing already since Shakespeare or even before that

He apparently didn’t give any distinctive physical characteristics and wanted the readers to imagine her for themselves so I’m not sure why people are getting worked up.

 

[Herr der Verboten]

Jajajaja… hands up who actually know Homeric Greek let alone that's a thing.

 

[Brian_G]

Mental thread #2.

 

[Herr der Verboten]

Mental thread.

FF to end. No need for 1k pages.

 

[OrbitalDawn]

He never wrote a physical description of Helen... He wrote "leukolenos" which translates to 'white armed' which, for Homer, was a signifier of status... White arms meant living indoors, not unusual for a literal Spartan princess, who would not be working manually in the sun... so no labourers or farmer's tan for Helen.

He described her hair "kallikomos" which translates to beautiful or noble, nothing more, and her clothing he described as "tanypeplos", meaning elegant.

More than that, nothing. Nada. Zip.

Also, there was no 'he' that wrote anything. What we call 'Homer' was in reality a large group of different people who cobbled together verbal re-tellings of poems over centuries. One of them used the term λευκόχερη (leukōlenos) once. For context, Helen is also described as having 3 different eye colours, depending on the version of the poem and the author, and her magical 'birth' is described in multiple different, mutually exclusive ways. The idea that a single reference to λευκόχερη is critically important, and means 'white' as it's used to describe 'white people' (a mostly incoherent, non-scientific term anyway) in the 21st century is patently absurd.

 

[OrbitalDawn]

I do find it annoying when historic characters are re-cast as other races.

Can't blame you for not reading this whole thread, but 'historic' characters? What?

If the story was written about ancient Greeks, cast Greek looking people.

Must have been traumatising watching Troy (2004)?

 

[HAL 9000]

The Odyssey: The Greatest Story Ever Told - Triggernometry & Ralston College​

 

[marine1]

Nobody is forcing anything down your throat. He is a actor. He is not playing a transgender.

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