Hardware Bargains 2 - Electric Boogaloo

Jar-man said:
Bump. It's been quiet here...
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Lupus said:
Why wouldn't they? Everything with RAM and ssd would
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No one said or believed they wouldn't. The point is that it's finally happened. And that it's taken almost a year for Mac pricing to be affected. This means the consumer loses out big time. It also brings Windows laptops back into the picture. Because at pre-increase Mac prices, 9 out of 10 times, buying Windows would be unwise, given that Macs are just so much better.

But I digress and certainly do not want to invoke being airborne'd here again for daring to veer off topic.
 
Conack said:
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www.incredible.co.za

Surface 7 15-inch Snapdragon® X Elite 16GB RAM 1TB SSD Storage Laptop

Windows 11 Home 15-inch HDR touchscreen 120hz display 16GB LPDDR5x RAM and 1TB SSD storage Qualcomm® Snapdragon® X Elite (12 Core) Qualcomm® Adreno™ GPU Wi-Fi 7 & Bluetooth wireless 5.4 Copilot+PC 3 Year Warranty (Upon Registration)
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Did anybody actually buy this? I'm pretty grumpy because it's a genuinely awesome deal, and is already all sold out. I knew Incredible did deep discounts on their demo laptops (I bought one for my son that way), but this promo seems to indicate they do the best retail specials on laptops in South Africa too (am I wrong?).
 
Nowadays 16GB of RAM is like gold in a discount section. Wonder how much time till the 8GB hardware is obsolete and can't sell anymore but the 16GB hardware is too expensive, nice storm where the market collapses.
 
AnimateX said:
Nowadays 16GB of RAM is like gold in a discount section. Wonder how much time till the 8GB hardware is obsolete and can't sell anymore but the 16GB hardware is too expensive, nice storm where the market collapses.
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Well thechnically 8gb is obsolete imo

Many are just in denial

fast nvme/ssd helps to soften the blow hide it
For day to day use

I prefer to have actual free memory not cached file filled ram that has to be swopped to hard drive to use it
 
leon.davibe said:
Well thechnically 8gb is obsolete imo

Many are just in denial

fast nvme/ssd helps to soften the blow hide it
For day to day use

I prefer to have actual free memory not cached file filled ram that has to be swopped to hard drive to use it
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Cached memory is commonly used processes stored in RAM for quicker access?
Paged (virtual memory) is when you're system starts using hard drive/SSD as you've run out of real memory.
Cached memory is essentially free memory as it can quickly clear when more memory is required.
 
Lupus said:
Cached memory is commonly used processes stored in RAM for quicker access?
Paged (virtual memory) is when you're system starts using hard drive/SSD as you've run out of real memory.
Cached memory is essentially free memory as it can quickly clear when more memory is required.
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Cache memory is orders of magnitude faster than the DRAM, yes, even the fancy DDR5.
Paged (virtual) memory is not necessarily your hard disk being used- virtual memory can and often is allocated in RAM too.
The cache is vitally important in modern computing, and goes hand-in-hand with the pipelining and superscalar nature of modern CPUs. It doesn't exactly work the way you think it does.

That is why various levels of cache exist, it's very complex to explain but it's not there for any other reason except to compensate for the slow DRAM. Cache is transparent to the program to a large degree.
 
Foxhound5366 said:
Did anybody actually buy this? I'm pretty grumpy because it's a genuinely awesome deal, and is already all sold out. I knew Incredible did deep discounts on their demo laptops (I bought one for my son that way), but this promo seems to indicate they do the best retail specials on laptops in South Africa too (am I wrong?).
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Anecdotally speaking they can do very good specials from time to time, stock however is extremely limited as I suppose it's usually some sort of clearance sale I assume. Got my Gigabyte RTX 3080 10GB that way 4 years ago, a friend got the 12GB model and was the last one in stock that they had at the time. I've bought quite a few things from IC on sale and it's always been the best price around when I bought.
 
Lupus said:
Cached memory is commonly used processes stored in RAM for quicker access?
Paged (virtual memory) is when you're system starts using hard drive/SSD as you've run out of real memory.
Cached memory is essentially free memory as it can quickly clear when more memory is required.
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Yes but if that commomly tasks has to be done again it has to be swopped out before it can happen

For heavy multitaskers those files could be the window that hasn't been n focus so when you switch back to it

My focus has allways been SSD and enough ram

You always feel sorry for not buying enough never just enough

Now yes with prices now not as easy to justify

Am i sorry i bought 64gb ddr4 kits at 2599

And 48gb ddr5 at 3599

Not at all, if i did not different story

For me it has allways been about having the bottleneck where it needs to be or what you can afford

But yea with ram prices i suppose it has to be at the ram now

And yes they do notice the performance drop of if i downgrade them

Used his ram sticks to see if his moms problem gets solved with more ram ( i did not tell him he was downgraded to 32gb )

A few days later (ge is.n't a nagger
He asked dad can you have a look at my pc lately way more stutters

Now yes this is usage based not everybody is a 32gb is not enough user
 
leon.davibe said:
Yes but if that commomly tasks has to be done again it has to be swopped out before it can happen

For heavy multitaskers those files could be the window that hasn't been n focus so when you switch back to it

My focus has allways been SSD and enough ram

You always feel sorry for not buying enough never just enough

Now yes with prices now not as easy to justify

Am i sorry i bought 64gb ddr4 kits at 2599

And 48gb ddr5 at 3599

Not at all, if i did not different story

For me it has allways been about having the bottleneck where it needs to be or what you can afford

But yea with ram prices i suppose it has to be at the ram now

And yes they do notice the performance drop of if i downgrade them

Used his ram sticks to see if his moms problem gets solved with more ram ( i did not tell him he was downgraded to 32gb )

A few days later (ge is.n't a nagger
He asked dad can you have a look at my pc lately way more stutters

Now yes this is usage based not everybody is a 32gb is not enough user
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