The Rugby Thread - Part Deux

They mad a **** ton off the US game.

Baltimore was Baltfontein over the weekend.

"The match in the US is set to earn the two unions R90 million (approx. NZ$9.6 million) more than if the match had been staged in South Africa, according to a report by The Daily Maverick."

 
Well if saru posted a loss of R30 mil they can fire 30 useless administors and brake even again.

The issue is the Springboks are profitable but all other unions and women rugby's is not. Everyone know has some sort of deal to sell springbok merch / fan gear (Checkers, Mr Price, Old School etc) and with this series Saru will porbably make a profit this year just not sure they can bank on a profit every year while supporting so many other unprofitable causes.
 
The issue is the Springboks are profitable but all other unions and women rugby's is not. Everyone know has some sort of deal to sell springbok merch / fan gear (Checkers, Mr Price, Old School etc) and with this series Saru will porbably make a profit this year just not sure they can bank on a profit every year while supporting so many other unprofitable causes.
The "big" unions are just neglecting their own fans. They have basically given up on currie cup and the championship cup was also disappointing.

The Boks now have the support they have because they actually win. They aren't full of excuses.
 
Could you advise how much control over the game you believe the coaches, players and fans have? Then perhaps we can start a discussion.
There are indications that shouldn't be all that earth-shattering.

For instance, Rassie is - for the most part - saying and doing the right things, these days.

This was not always the case. He was regularly getting into hot water with t-rugby-ptb.

Rassie has a monumental following of adoring fans. His fans... not just springbok fans. Fans that hang on his every word.

How do you think that makes the rugby gods sleep at night... not having the confidence their word on anything in rugby might be castigated by Rassie?

They could change a lot in RU. The rules, for instance, which affect their bottom line. tv/viewing rights.... ticket prices, selection policy.

He has quite a lot of veto power for an outsider/lower-down.

He also has the Rainbow establishment's #1 political chess piece.... Siya Kolisi's respect. At least so far, he has it.

So... imo, this is not something easily dismissed, in terms of control.

SAn politics is unfortunately being propped up by the success of the Springboks. In my mind there is absolutely no question about this. That's why I said the Rainbow project is running on little else than Springbok fumes. Rn, one could substitute a springbok for the unicorn in the Critical Theory-based Rainbow Nation project.
 
To be fair, labelling it an exhibition match is a bit unfair. It was a lot of things...

As the fixture drew closer I realized how much was actually at stake...

AB win would have seen them move to 1st on the rankings, they would have avoided the ignominy of losing to the same opposition 3 times consecutively and officially they would have drawn the 4 match away test series 2-2 (see the abnormality)? They would also have gained a psychological advantage over the Boks re performance at neutral venues, ahead of the 2027 RWC. Over and above that NRU stands to make a significant purse out of the fixture, essential given world cup years tend to be rather lean as there are no home tests.

For the Boks, the converse of the above rings true IE stay at no.1, 3 consecutive victories, series win etc etc etc

So yes, to refer to the 4th test as simply an exhibition match is selling it short and rather disingenuous...
To be fair, most of the pundits expressing the exact same dubious reaction to the organizers' decision-making on including a 4th test as part of a home series.... in another country, was quite carefully done.

Most of them used the term carefully, by saying things like 'almost an exhibition match', or "it seems like an exhibition match".

They aren't lawyers, or technocrats. They were just speaking from their instant gut reaction to an obvious diversion from the 40+ year norm, and their experience in life and professional rugby which tells them not everyone who reaches a position of mass influence has the best interest of the masses at heart.

Matfield said it as part of his podcast which is - at least in part - an entertainment podcast. Even tho' Victor might even believe what he said, part of their following is there to watch the two of them wind each other up. It's known.

I said it without reference to a technical definition. And I still stand by my assertion. It was an exhibition match, as I later defined it, in line with how all those pundits and ex-players meant it... the boks won the series 2-1.

Officially they won a series 3 - 1. But it wasn't a home series, if they won it 3 - 1.

You obviously can't call it a home series, if you go with the official narrative. Everyone has to change their language, now. In drawing comparisons, everyone will have to be a little more nuanced since in their own adopted definition, the boks did not win a home series against the All Blacks 3 - 1, in 2026.

What are the chances nobody will bother with the nuance, and instead settle at the new low of simply doing a less meaningful comparison from now on? Pretty good, if you ask me.

This is how it starts. Steps small enough that you don't ever kick up a fuss. I think it's part of a denationalization agenda.

I watched your video, and it was almost unanimously received in incredulity. As though it was a move, packaged to paper over its astro-turf nature. Made to look like an organically derived label. Pundits were and many still are genuinely suspicious.... and they are right to be.

It's nothing new, right. We see headlines on mybb day in and day out using this same astro-turfing strategy to gauge the reaction to something tptb want to introduce on a national level. To prepare the way, to grease the skids they imply/infer that the masses are already in favor of the end phenomenon being sought. Such headlines typically begin '[South Africa increasingly opting for a digital payments future]' or '[South Africans prefer id cards to old id books]'. It's gaslighting. We've become very accustomed to these kinds of headlines.

The 'stakeholders', as they like to call themselves, are never keen to actually consult individuals, in order to gauge real grass-roots preferences.
 
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