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TheChamp said:
You post could have meant Mbeki or Ramaphosa, so don't try to be cute with me.

There is no RET factor, Mbeki just hate Cyril because Cyril managed to to what Mbeki, with all his high IQ and qualifications failed to do against a primary school drop out, Ramaphosa outsmarted Zuma, not once but twice, that annoys Mbeki greatly because he has always thought of Cyril as a being way beneath him.
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I am sure Mbeki thinks everyone is way beneath him.
 
Mike Hoxbig said:
I don't think that's what it says. I read it as ASA was scheming to seize power, and planned to work with the IFP and VF+...
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That accusation assumes the plot was going to be successful though, which would imply the Freedom Front would have been a willing participant in the plot, my question is why would the Freedom Front be scheming with Mashaba? Logically it doesn't make sense, it sounds like those Zuma intelligence report he uses to purge people.
 
TheChamp said:
People who were in the room are being second guessed by people who were sitting in their offices.

https://twitter.com/x/status/2120096347969781895
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https://www.politicsweb.co.za/news/joburg-what-the-da-offered-the-pa

They are missing out the fact that the seats were not ActionSA's to give away.
We nevertheless agreed with these discussions proceeding, on two conditions:

1) That the PA should not return with more MMC positions than they had when they left to side with the ANC;

2) That they were not seen to benefit from their betrayal, as this would provide an incentive for further extortion, as the PA continued to play off offers of the ANC against those of the DA.

We consider these to be eminently reasonable conditions in the circumstances.

Nevertheless, the PA demanded that they retain the two portfolios given to them by the ANC as the price for returning to the multi-party coalition.

They also promised to bank R10-million as the price they were prepared to pay if they should betray the coalition again. The DA rejected this unenforceable offer as another aspect of the PA’s politics of bribery and extortion. The DA does not undertake cheque-book politics. If we were to fall for this kind of tactic, we would be no better than the ANC.

The other coalition partners, however, backed the PA’s position to set non-negotiable conditions for their return to the governing coalition in Johannesburg, and acquiesced to their demands for the MMC of Transport & Roads as well as the MMC, Economic Development.

Both these portfolios are currently headed by councillors from ActionSA, but as they are subject to a coalition agreement, it is not exclusively in ActionSA’s gift to hand them over to another party that is not a formal member of our coalition.
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And whilst it is nice to go and throw around historical baggage, the coalitions this time around do not need to involve the PA. It basically would be two-party coalitions if the DA is involved.
 
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