1 November Non SAIX ISPs

[GougedEye]

OK, with all the rumours floating around about per gig fees for ADSL and absolute caps come 1 Novemeber I was wondering...

How does this affect the non SAIX ISPs? Basically IS and UUNET? They don't get their bandwidth from Telcom / SAIX. So if you use them, surely Telkom has no control over how they charge you? Unless Telkom is going to make them unpeer from the DSLAMS?

Sounds like a great marketing opportunity for them.

Comments?

 

[Slip]

At last...I knew their was a reason why I signed up with IS as my service provider

 

[Spectre]

Yeah I.S is the shiznay )

 

[ProAsm]

OK, with all the rumours floating around about per gig fees for ADSL and absolute caps come 1 Novemeber I was wondering...

How does this affect the non SAIX ISPs? Basically IS and UUNET? They don't get their bandwidth from Telcom / SAIX. So if you use them, surely Telkom has no control over how they charge you? Unless Telkom is going to make them unpeer from the DSLAMS?

Sounds like a great marketing opportunity for them.

Comments?

Internationally you go via Telkom, thus you will not pass go, you will not collect 200 and you will move directly to your cap.

 

[GougedEye]

I disagree. IS and UUNET supply their own bandwidth. Including International. IS uses satelites which is what makes the latency so bad.

I could be wrong, but I don't think so......

 

[sburrell]

SAIX is theorectically the fastest pipe outside of the country due to the number of submarine cables they have, followed by UUNET then IS. UUNET has been having problems as they are running out of usable bandwidth on their cables, and IS is just slow because of the sattelite uplinks.

 

[rebel]

I disagree. IS and UUNET supply their own bandwidth. Including International. IS uses satelites which is what makes the latency so bad.

I could be wrong, but I don't think so......

Hey I thought Telkom was the only legal bandwidth provider. Isn't this self provision by a VANS licence holder?

 

[mccrack]

All the other Tier 1's have to purchase bandwidth from SAIX (Telkom).

 

[rebel]

What are Tier 1's? Why can't an ISP like Axxess buy international bandwidth from someone else?

 

[Clipse]

incorrect, uunet buy bandwidth from saix for their uk access and afaik saix buy bandwidth from uunet for their us access

rebel - Axxess can resell IS or UUNET but they wont offer axxess the possibility of 30gig for R350, so either way you prob wont buy it then?

 

[guest2013-1]

IS and UUNET uses satelites correct, but thats not their only means of bandwidth. They have to use the cable to get overseas as well (or else who would want them?)

I suggest you guys read up a bit on the internet network topography and actually see what links go where and how fast they are before speculating.

 

[Clipse]

IS and UUNET uses satelites correct, but thats not their only means of bandwidth. They have to use the cable to get overseas as well (or else who would want them?)

I suggest you guys read up a bit on the internet network topography and actually see what links go where and how fast they are before speculating.

UUNET has no noticable outside satelite links on their core network, unlike IS. UUNET has enough international pipes, in SA terms ;-)

 

[Mux]

I fail to see why Telkom should dictate the bandwidth cap. If usage is an ISP's problem, why does Telkom dictate how much they are allowed to provide to me? (Ok, I know Telkom provides the line to my house, which I have to pay for and the same line for my phone, which I also have to pay for.)
What is the sense of an ISP for ADSL with these "dictator" rules?
(Hopefully you can make sense of what I just wrote, because I can't.)

 

[Crash]

UUNET make use of a Saix service called IpConnect to get their bandwidth.