100 bodies in grave

marine1 said:
I'm confused so these alleged bodies which have not been found died many years ago apparently due to them being beaten?? Am I mad that this makes little sense to me.
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Never heard of beaing beaten to death?

this should be in the farm murders thread
 
marine1 said:
No of course I'm just saying nothing has been found only a witch doctors vision and now the President must investigate ?????
Did I miss something
Did they find the bodies
Sorry I'm tired
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I thought they found the bodies... Well if you are right the this is a bit dumb
 
A sangoma's vision of buried bodies has led to the unearthing of a suspected mass grave, containing nearly 100 skeletons, on a sugarcane farm in KwaZulu-Natal...
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So they have not found any bodies and until it has been investigated they can't be sure if those are burial mounds. This article is like an M Night Shyamalan movie offering allot but in reality it's threadbare.
 
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marine1 said:
Thank you so it wasn't just me.
Where do these piece learn to report like this? ???
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I had to read the article twice because I thought that I had missed that piece of information. It's a strange article in that every person who is quoted gives the impression that bodies have been found.
 
The truth is usually much more boring in my experience. My guess is some hospital dumped them there due to full morgue.
 
Spend 10's of millions on probe because sangoma says they exist... *waits for nothing to be found and a 'someone must have moved them' report*
 
Speaking as someone from the area, I would not be surprised if a few skeletons were found in the area, but it's not going to be what the public expects. I hear a lot of talk about it being a grave used by the Secret Police but that would be farthest from the truth. I'm betting it's due to the faction fighting between the ANC and the IFP. The south coast wasn't a good place to be between 1980 and 1994, what with bombings and lots of political assassinations going on between the 2 camps.
 
Beerisgood said:
The truth is usually much more boring in my experience. My guess is some hospital dumped them there due to full morgue.
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Unearthing the secrets of KwaZulu-Natal's farm of horrors

Shocking details of abuse and brutality have emerged in the wake of the discovery of a "mass grave" on a KwaZulu-Natal farm.

Former workers from the South Coast farm say that in the years before prison labour was banned in the '80s, convicts who worked there were forced to wear old sacks and were beaten for no reason.

"Those who died were buried like dogs in that place," one former labourer, Willie Ndlovu, told the Sunday Times this week.

"There are many prisoners who died there. Once a prisoner had died, the workers would just dig a hole and bury them in an unmarked grave. We called the place where they were buried ezintandaneni [the place of orphans]."

Police have cordoned off the site on Glenroy Farm where as many as 100 bodies could be buried.

Premier Senzo Mchunu and his provincial cabinet issued a statement a week ago about the existence of a "mass grave", saying the farm had been known for its use of prison labour.

The statement gave few details, and a veil of secrecy has been thrown over the discovery, but former workers have told of how prisoners were badly abused by farm foremen at the owner's behest.
At the time of the alleged abuse, the farm was owned by Walter William Lindsay, who died in 1985 at the age of 81.

A multi-agency team involving the National Prosecuting Authority, the Department of Home Affairs and forensic investigators would be set up to investigate and identify the bodies, Mchunu's statement said.

Prison Labour

The use of prison labour was for a long time common practice in South Africa, with the earliest records of it going back to the 1800s.

Questions have been raised over whether the bodies really are those of prison labourers, but several people who worked for Lindsay have no doubt that they are.

Ndlovu said he had witnessed prisoners being "sjambokked by izinduna [foremen]" during the six years that he worked there during the '60s.

Ndlovu's recollections are backed up by other workers and families in Dududu, where the farm is situated.

"Most of them died as a result of the injuries sustained from being severely beaten. I do not remember anyone who died because they were sick," said Ndlovu, now in his 70s.

He said the conditions under which the prisoners worked were so brutal that some escaped from the farm and ran away.

While the regular labourers also did not escape the wrath of the izinduna, it was the prisoners who bore the brunt of their aggression, he said.

He said prisoners were beaten at the slightest provocation and for being "lazy".

The prisoners had to wear old sacks when they arrived at the farm, which made them easily identifiable.
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