2013 CRUZE 1.8 LS

dd1313

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Hi GUys

Are these cars good ?

I have an offer to buy one for R190K on the road, has 5000km

Thanks
DD
 
I have driven a 2012 one, I dont know if anything has changed in the last year.

All in all this is a very good car, comfortable drive, looks good inside and out, lots of nice features in the range very good brakes. I only have two problems with the car.

The car is very underpowered or under-tuned, it cant get off a line very quickly and if you dont have momentum going into an uphill it will battle.

The electronic steering rack takes a lot of feel away from the drive, you will probably find ourself drifting lanes if you are not looking what you are doing.

I would say take it for a test drive and test the above two point and see for yourself.
 
the auto box is louder than my 1.3's. to pay such alot for that noise just put me off. the car's kit is nice though. everything else is sexy but just that noisy box.
 
I'm just going to leave this here.

JD Power Survey 2013

2013 JD Power Customer satisfaction survey - manufacturer results.

1. Jaguar 82.7%
2. Lexus 81.8%
3. Honda 81.0%
4. Skoda 80.9%
5. Mercedes-Benz 80.4%
6. Land Rover 79.0%
7. Volvo 78.9%
8. Toyota 78.8%
9= Nissan 78.7%
9= Seat 78.7%
9= Volkswagen 78.7%
12. BMW 78.5%
13. Audi 78.0%
14. Citroen 77.7%
15= Kia 77.5%
15= Mini 77.5%
17. Hyundai 77.2%
18. Ford 77.1%
19. Renault 76.6%
20. Mazda 76.2%
21. Suzuki 75.8%
22. Vauxhall 75.6%
23. Fiat 75.4%
24. Peugeot 75.0%
25. Mitsubishi 74.5%
26. Alfa Romeo 72.5%
27. Chevrolet 69.1%
Industry Average 77.6%

Granted it's for the UK but bear it in mind when considering buying a Chev locally.

The kit is nice, but beyond that it's a bland, boring place to be IMHO, far more so than regular Honda/Toyota econoboxes.
 
Remember that the local Chevs aren't really Chevs but rather rebadged Koreans (Daewoo and the like) which will list them even lower on JD Power.

I would rather buy a true Korean in that case like the Kia Cerato, instead of forking out extra money for something that pretends to be something else.
 
Agreed, should definitely get a Jag instead :rolleyes:
While there are some surprises in the survey, the brands you typically expect in the top 10 are there (Lexus, Honda, Toyota) and the ones you'd typically expect in the bottom half are there too (Peugeot, Fial, Vauxhall, Alfa).

But yeah, OP should totally buy a R190,000 Jag instead of considering Jap/Better Korean alternatives at that price point. :rolleyes:
 
Drove one as a rental. Very under powered.
 
Remember that the local Chevs aren't really Chevs but rather rebadged Koreans (Daewoo and the like) which will list them even lower on JD Power.

I would rather buy a true Korean in that case like the Kia Cerato, instead of forking out extra money for something that pretends to be something else.

Daewoo Motors is no more. It is Daewoo who prominently branded the Spark as the Matiz and did the production when GM Korea got involved to replace a prior Daewoo in the segment called the Daewoo Tico. The Chery QQ is also a copy where GM claimed that Chery copied the Daewoo Matiz and made the doors interchangeable, this case was also in SA and certain Chery workshops was under scrutiny to close doors. There is more controversy here. I’m not really sure, but I think that most are produced in Mexico and SA today. GM provided Holden, Suzuki and other strange Asian brands.
 
Yeah Daewoo as a brand certainly doesn't exist any more but I believe these cars are still pretty much the exact same thing and there's nothing "All American" about the ones we get here.

Although looking at the American website now it does seem like the same models are available there so at least it's not only us getting shafted but the entire brand name.


Locally the Holden Commodore is the Chev Lumina SS which doesn't appear to be the same SS as in America by the looks of it. Then again that same car is a Vauxhall VXR in the UK so who knows.
 
Yeah Daewoo as a brand certainly doesn't exist any more but I believe these cars are still pretty much the exact same thing and there's nothing "All American" about the ones we get here.

Although looking at the American website now it does seem like the same models are available there so at least it's not only us getting shafted but the entire brand name.


Locally the Holden Commodore is the Chev Lumina SS which doesn't appear to be the same SS as in America by the looks of it. Then again that same car is a Vauxhall VXR in the UK so who knows.

Off topic but, that's just how car companies are. Costs are high, and markets are different. Companies will often work together on models, and sell them under different name in different countries. More and more companies are developing 'world cars', single vehicles for multiple markets, to save on costs.

I actually quite like the current Chevs to come out of Korea. The new Spark, Sonic and Cruze are much better than the old Matiz/Spark, Aveo and Optra.
 
For sure, but it means you can trust the reliability and other statistics of a given brand across all models.

Which is why I mentioned it in the first place.
 
Car mag said the auto box is one to stay away from. It cannot make up its mind to switch between gears at certain speeds.

That jd test, pity it does not say which models.
Some cars have a odd problem model.

I like the cruize.
 
My mate has a 1.8 auto and he reckons the thing is heavy on juice (he averages 10L/100km if I recall correctly).
 
My dad has the 1.8 manual, just did a road trip from CPT to PE and back.

60L tank and currently on 760km with 50km to go. Quite impressive on the open road.

Town driving not so much
 
One word: SLOW

Not sure how Chev manages to build such under-powered cars. They even manage to build a 6L V8 without much poke.
 
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