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2017 Renault Scenic
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What I like about all these new Renaults is how they are basing their design on the Clio 4, means mine will take forever to age 
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FiestaST
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Renault Scenic and Grand Scenic Hybrid Assist models now on sale now
Renault has opened order books for its Scenic and Grand Scenic Hybrid Assist models, which join their respective ranges with the most efficient drivetrain on offer.
Mating the dCi 110 1.5-litre diesel engine to an electric motor producing 10kW (13bhp), the two models are claimed to return up to 80.7mpg combined and emit 94g/km of CO2.
This beats the non-hybrid dCi 110’s economy by 8.3mpg and undercuts its CO2 by 6g/km.
The Hybrid Assist system is Renault’s first in a production car. It uses a 48-volt 150Wh battery that’s located under the rear seats of the Scenic or in the spare wheel well housing of the Grand Scenic.
Alongside its efficiency improvements, it also boosts performance, with Renault claiming that the drivetrain has noticeably more torque than the non-hybrid diesel from 1000rpm. It offers up to 52lb ft o torque over the pure combustion engine dCi 110 Scenic.
The system can also recover energy during deceleration via is Motor Generation Unit, which it stores in the battery for use during acceleration.
The Hybrid Assist powered cars come with the same range of trims and finishes as the rest of the Scenic and Grand Scenic models, although no entry Expression trim is available. 20in wheels are standard across the range.
The base Hybrid Assist car comes in Dynamic Nav spec, which gets satnav, parking sensors and Renault’s R-Link 2 infotainment system. Above this, Dynamic S Nav and Signature Nav trims add features such as an 8.7in touchscreen infotainment system, leather seats and LED headlights.
Prices for the Hybrid Assist models are £1000 more than the equivalent, non-hybrid 110 dCi. This means a Scenic Hybrid Assist starts at £25,055 and the Grand Scenic Hybrid Assist starts at £26,855.
https://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/...rand-scenic-hybrid-assist-models-now-sale-now
Renault has opened order books for its Scenic and Grand Scenic Hybrid Assist models, which join their respective ranges with the most efficient drivetrain on offer.
Mating the dCi 110 1.5-litre diesel engine to an electric motor producing 10kW (13bhp), the two models are claimed to return up to 80.7mpg combined and emit 94g/km of CO2.
This beats the non-hybrid dCi 110’s economy by 8.3mpg and undercuts its CO2 by 6g/km.
The Hybrid Assist system is Renault’s first in a production car. It uses a 48-volt 150Wh battery that’s located under the rear seats of the Scenic or in the spare wheel well housing of the Grand Scenic.
Alongside its efficiency improvements, it also boosts performance, with Renault claiming that the drivetrain has noticeably more torque than the non-hybrid diesel from 1000rpm. It offers up to 52lb ft o torque over the pure combustion engine dCi 110 Scenic.
The system can also recover energy during deceleration via is Motor Generation Unit, which it stores in the battery for use during acceleration.
The Hybrid Assist powered cars come with the same range of trims and finishes as the rest of the Scenic and Grand Scenic models, although no entry Expression trim is available. 20in wheels are standard across the range.
The base Hybrid Assist car comes in Dynamic Nav spec, which gets satnav, parking sensors and Renault’s R-Link 2 infotainment system. Above this, Dynamic S Nav and Signature Nav trims add features such as an 8.7in touchscreen infotainment system, leather seats and LED headlights.
Prices for the Hybrid Assist models are £1000 more than the equivalent, non-hybrid 110 dCi. This means a Scenic Hybrid Assist starts at £25,055 and the Grand Scenic Hybrid Assist starts at £26,855.
https://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/...rand-scenic-hybrid-assist-models-now-sale-now
FiestaST
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2017 Renault SCENIC - FULL REVIEW
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FiestaST
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Renault Scenic introduces all-new 1.3-litre petrol engine
Scenic and Grand Scenic models gain four-cylinder unit offering 113bhp or 138bhp
Renault has introduced an all-new 1.3-litre petrol engine to its ranks via the Scenic and its larger brother, the Grand Scenic.
The Energy TCe unit is a turbocharged four-cylinder available in two specifications. The first produces 113bhp and 162lb ft of torque, while the second provides 138bhp and 177lb ft. Both versions offer a claimed 52.3mpg and output 122g/km of CO2 in the Scenic, with the larger Grand Scenic offering up to 51.4mpg and as little as 124g/km of CO2.
The 1.3-litre engine, which uses a direct fuel injection system pressurised to 250-bar, comes available with a manual gearbox or Renault’s dual-clutch EDC automatic. Like the rest of the engine range, drive is sent exclusively to the front wheels.
Scenic prices start at £22,005 for the lower power output engine, while the more potent unit commands £24,005. Buyers after a larger Grand Scenic with the new powerplant will have to spend from £23,505; 138bhp versions require £25,805.
Renault also recently used its latest Scenic range to introduce a new hybrid assist powertrain. That system mates a dCi 110 1.5-litre diesel engine to an electric motor producing 10kW (13bhp). The two models are claimed to return up to 80.7mpg combined and emit 94g/km of CO2.
https://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/new-cars/renault-scenic-introduces-all-new-13-litre-petrol-engine
Scenic and Grand Scenic models gain four-cylinder unit offering 113bhp or 138bhp
Renault has introduced an all-new 1.3-litre petrol engine to its ranks via the Scenic and its larger brother, the Grand Scenic.
The Energy TCe unit is a turbocharged four-cylinder available in two specifications. The first produces 113bhp and 162lb ft of torque, while the second provides 138bhp and 177lb ft. Both versions offer a claimed 52.3mpg and output 122g/km of CO2 in the Scenic, with the larger Grand Scenic offering up to 51.4mpg and as little as 124g/km of CO2.
The 1.3-litre engine, which uses a direct fuel injection system pressurised to 250-bar, comes available with a manual gearbox or Renault’s dual-clutch EDC automatic. Like the rest of the engine range, drive is sent exclusively to the front wheels.
Scenic prices start at £22,005 for the lower power output engine, while the more potent unit commands £24,005. Buyers after a larger Grand Scenic with the new powerplant will have to spend from £23,505; 138bhp versions require £25,805.
Renault also recently used its latest Scenic range to introduce a new hybrid assist powertrain. That system mates a dCi 110 1.5-litre diesel engine to an electric motor producing 10kW (13bhp). The two models are claimed to return up to 80.7mpg combined and emit 94g/km of CO2.
https://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/new-cars/renault-scenic-introduces-all-new-13-litre-petrol-engine
FiestaST
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Renault considering future of Scenic
The French car maker might not replace the MPV when it next comes up for renewal
The future of the Renault Scenic and Grand Scenic is under consideration, according to Renault boss Thierry Bollore.
The current generation only launched in 2016, but for the next generation, due in 2022 or 2023, the future is not certain.
That’s due to a changing market in which SUVs reign supreme and MPVs such as the Scenic and Grand Scenic have fallen heavily out of favour.
Bollore said: “For the next generation, there is a question: do we just have SUVs, or do we continue to have MPVs? This questioning is ongoing."
However, he added that it was “interesting to have an offer that wasn’t just an SUV” in the model range.
Referring to the current Scenic, Bollore said: "Today, we are happy with what we are doing with Scenic but the segment is changing from year to year. For now, we are still fulfilling our customers' needs."
Renualt Europe boss Jean-Christophe Kugler, commenting on the ongoing success of the model, said: "Scenic customer loyalty levels are very high. We worked a lot with design, because [one of the reasons customers rejected] MPVs was often around design. Renault created the MPV market and so I think it helps having that leadership.”
In Europe, Scenic and Grand Scenic sales peaked in 2004 at 319,131 units. Now sales are around the 105,000 market but have been broadly consistent for the past few years. Sales will increase this year, added Bollore.
The Scenic and Grand Scenic were once important cars for family buyers, but as the SUV trend has surged worldwide, MPV sales have fallen dramatically. Renault now offers three SUVs in Europe: the Captur, Kadjar and Koleos. Together they account for almost one third of the company's sales.
https://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/new-cars/renault-considering-future-scenic
The French car maker might not replace the MPV when it next comes up for renewal
The future of the Renault Scenic and Grand Scenic is under consideration, according to Renault boss Thierry Bollore.
The current generation only launched in 2016, but for the next generation, due in 2022 or 2023, the future is not certain.
That’s due to a changing market in which SUVs reign supreme and MPVs such as the Scenic and Grand Scenic have fallen heavily out of favour.
Bollore said: “For the next generation, there is a question: do we just have SUVs, or do we continue to have MPVs? This questioning is ongoing."
However, he added that it was “interesting to have an offer that wasn’t just an SUV” in the model range.
Referring to the current Scenic, Bollore said: "Today, we are happy with what we are doing with Scenic but the segment is changing from year to year. For now, we are still fulfilling our customers' needs."
Renualt Europe boss Jean-Christophe Kugler, commenting on the ongoing success of the model, said: "Scenic customer loyalty levels are very high. We worked a lot with design, because [one of the reasons customers rejected] MPVs was often around design. Renault created the MPV market and so I think it helps having that leadership.”
In Europe, Scenic and Grand Scenic sales peaked in 2004 at 319,131 units. Now sales are around the 105,000 market but have been broadly consistent for the past few years. Sales will increase this year, added Bollore.
The Scenic and Grand Scenic were once important cars for family buyers, but as the SUV trend has surged worldwide, MPV sales have fallen dramatically. Renault now offers three SUVs in Europe: the Captur, Kadjar and Koleos. Together they account for almost one third of the company's sales.
https://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/new-cars/renault-considering-future-scenic
FiestaST
Honorary Master
Renault cuts Grand Scenic MPV from UK line-up
Removal of brand’s only seven-seater follows axing of five-seat Scenic last year and Koleos SUV last week
Renault has removed the Grand Scenic MPV from its UK portfolio, following the five-seat Scenic's departure last year.
The departure of the formerly popular people carrier, confirmed to Autocar by a Renault UK spokesperson, also comes after the Koleos large SUV met the same fate last week. The decision to remove the seven-seater was taken prior to that and the Covid-19 pandemic, however.
Both models remain on sale in other European markets, with the French brand’s UK range realigned to “better meet the needs of customers”. Although no UK-specific figures have been released, Renault sold just over 76,000 Scenics and Grand Scenics across Europe in 2019 – less than half the number it sold back in 2011
www.autocar.co.uk
Removal of brand’s only seven-seater follows axing of five-seat Scenic last year and Koleos SUV last week
Renault has removed the Grand Scenic MPV from its UK portfolio, following the five-seat Scenic's departure last year.
The departure of the formerly popular people carrier, confirmed to Autocar by a Renault UK spokesperson, also comes after the Koleos large SUV met the same fate last week. The decision to remove the seven-seater was taken prior to that and the Covid-19 pandemic, however.
Both models remain on sale in other European markets, with the French brand’s UK range realigned to “better meet the needs of customers”. Although no UK-specific figures have been released, Renault sold just over 76,000 Scenics and Grand Scenics across Europe in 2019 – less than half the number it sold back in 2011
Renault cuts Grand Scenic MPV from UK line-up | Autocar
Removal of brand’s only seven-seater follows axing of five-seat Scenic last year and Koleos SUV last week
www.autocar.co.uk
FiestaST
Honorary Master
Reputable Renault Scenic range discontinued with more models to follow
As SUVs continue to dominate markets with manufacturers lining their portfolios with pumped-up hatches, other segments have been suffering. The sedan is one of the more common to be mentioned but the MPV segment is enduring the same fate. The reputable Renault Scenic has been discontinued with the Grand Scenic to follow suit shortly.
The Scenic range hasn’t been offered in markets like South Africa for some time now, which could have been a sign of things to come for the French automaker. Both MPV derivatives will no longer be offered in the European market after selling over four generations since 1996 with the novel creation selling almost 3 million examples during its lifecycle.
Unfortunately, none of its successors managed to garner the same sales figures and management at the top has finally decided to pull the cord after just 20,678 sales last year. The reputable Renault Scenic is no longer an offering for sale but the three-row Grand Scenic derivative still is, albeit for the next few months only.
www.carmag.co.za
As SUVs continue to dominate markets with manufacturers lining their portfolios with pumped-up hatches, other segments have been suffering. The sedan is one of the more common to be mentioned but the MPV segment is enduring the same fate. The reputable Renault Scenic has been discontinued with the Grand Scenic to follow suit shortly.
The Scenic range hasn’t been offered in markets like South Africa for some time now, which could have been a sign of things to come for the French automaker. Both MPV derivatives will no longer be offered in the European market after selling over four generations since 1996 with the novel creation selling almost 3 million examples during its lifecycle.
Unfortunately, none of its successors managed to garner the same sales figures and management at the top has finally decided to pull the cord after just 20,678 sales last year. The reputable Renault Scenic is no longer an offering for sale but the three-row Grand Scenic derivative still is, albeit for the next few months only.
Reputable Renault Scenic range discontinued with more models to follow
As SUVs continue to dominate markets with manufacturers lining their portfolios with pumped-up hatches, other segments have been suffering. The sedan is one of the more common to be mentioned but the MPV segment is enduring the same fate. The reputable Renault Scenic has now been discontinued in...
www.carmag.co.za
FiestaST
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Renault Scenic Vision Concept
The automotive industry's transformation will be more than complex: it will be total! The paradigm has shifted: the world is now aware that it is fragile. This applies to climate change as much as natural resources and the models underpinning society. There is a broad consensus around the need for change. The goal now is to turn this collective awareness into a motor for a greener, safer, more inclusive future. The challenges surrounding climate change, resource preservation and evolving mobility habits are radically reshaping the automotive industry's value chain. Through its Raison d'Etre (Purpose) and its ongoing Renaulution strategic plan, Renault Group and its brands have embarked on an extensive transformation, shifting the focus away from volume and towards economic, environmental and social value, and have set their sights on carbon neutrality in Europe by 2040 and worldwide by 2050. To achieve this, the Renault brand is for example aiming for an entirely electric range in Europe by 2030. The Group, which was one of the first to venture into the electric vehicle arena over a decade ago, will do much more to advance decarbonisation than reduce emissions in use. Today Renault is unveiling its Renault Scenic Vision concept car, which embodies its sustainable development commitments and encapsulates them in a vehicle. It takes Renault's decarbonisation plan and adapts it to the full life-cycle of a vehicle.
The automotive industry's transformation will be more than complex: it will be total! The paradigm has shifted: the world is now aware that it is fragile. This applies to climate change as much as natural resources and the models underpinning society. There is a broad consensus around the need for change. The goal now is to turn this collective awareness into a motor for a greener, safer, more inclusive future. The challenges surrounding climate change, resource preservation and evolving mobility habits are radically reshaping the automotive industry's value chain. Through its Raison d'Etre (Purpose) and its ongoing Renaulution strategic plan, Renault Group and its brands have embarked on an extensive transformation, shifting the focus away from volume and towards economic, environmental and social value, and have set their sights on carbon neutrality in Europe by 2040 and worldwide by 2050. To achieve this, the Renault brand is for example aiming for an entirely electric range in Europe by 2030. The Group, which was one of the first to venture into the electric vehicle arena over a decade ago, will do much more to advance decarbonisation than reduce emissions in use. Today Renault is unveiling its Renault Scenic Vision concept car, which embodies its sustainable development commitments and encapsulates them in a vehicle. It takes Renault's decarbonisation plan and adapts it to the full life-cycle of a vehicle.
FiestaST
Honorary Master
Renault reveals hydrogen-powered Scenic Vision concept car
Renault recently retired the Scenic nameplate that was attached to a once popular, and once-egg-shaped, compact MPV model, but it could be making a comeback - with a hydrogen twist.
On Thursday the French carmaker revealed a prototype hydrogen fuel cell-powered SUV concept car. Renault said the car, dubbed the 'Scenic Vision', would not be commercially available before 2030-2032, but a fully electric version is set to hit the streets in 2024.
A fuel cell vehicle has an electric motor just like an electric vehicle, but the motor is powered by electricity produced through hydrogen, enhancing the battery's range.
A 16kW fuel cell will extend the car's range to 800km without recharging, and the battery will be twice as light, resulting in a 75% reduction in carbon footprint compared to a conventional electric model, Renault said.
The hydrogen-powered concept car is built around an all-new platform that is currently in the prototyping phase at Renault Group’s innovation labs.
www.iol.co.za
Renault recently retired the Scenic nameplate that was attached to a once popular, and once-egg-shaped, compact MPV model, but it could be making a comeback - with a hydrogen twist.
On Thursday the French carmaker revealed a prototype hydrogen fuel cell-powered SUV concept car. Renault said the car, dubbed the 'Scenic Vision', would not be commercially available before 2030-2032, but a fully electric version is set to hit the streets in 2024.
A fuel cell vehicle has an electric motor just like an electric vehicle, but the motor is powered by electricity produced through hydrogen, enhancing the battery's range.
A 16kW fuel cell will extend the car's range to 800km without recharging, and the battery will be twice as light, resulting in a 75% reduction in carbon footprint compared to a conventional electric model, Renault said.
The hydrogen-powered concept car is built around an all-new platform that is currently in the prototyping phase at Renault Group’s innovation labs.
Renault reveals hydrogen-powered Scenic Vision concept car
Renault is looking set to join the hydrogen race and the new Scenic Vision concept car paves the way forward.
FiestaST
Honorary Master
This Renault Scenic Vision Concept previews an electric Scenic for 2024
Well, ish. This concept is a hydrogen-electric range-extender, but the exterior shape? Get used to it
Looks good, doesn’t it? Just as well really, because this Renault Scenic Vision Concept - a hydrogen-electric range extender that’s almost entirely recyclable - is here to give you a flavour of what a new, fully electric Scenic will look like when it lands in 2024. Yup, the Scenic’s making a comeback.
Before you get too excited, let’s qualify that: this concept previews the exterior design that we’ll see on the forthcoming electric Scenic, while all the futuristic bits are a nod to the sustainable, zero-carbon future the company is aiming for in the 2030s.
“The show car is the production car almost exactly,” Renault design director Gilles Vidal tells TG. “It will be called the Scenic,” he adds, although the firm is yet to decide if it’ll be ‘Scenic E-Tech’ a la the Megane E-Tech. And it’ll be a five-seater: Renault reckons it has other cars more suited to seating seven.
The design of the thing will be mimicked on Renault’s future electric products, with the exception of the Renault 5 and planned Renault 4 concept, which will be “standalone objects” that won’t “follow the rules like the others”. Intriguing.
“This [front light] signature is half Renault logo,” says Vidal. “And that makes it very recognisable, but also relevant for the brand. And then you can morph it around as much as you want. It will be on the car we’re talking about, and it will be used across the range in different manners and different ways.”
So what about the powertrain? The Scenic Vision Concept uses the same 160kW motor from the Megane, and you can bet your bottom dollar that the production version will do the same given that it’s built on an adapted version of the same CMF-EV platform.
www.topgear.com
Well, ish. This concept is a hydrogen-electric range-extender, but the exterior shape? Get used to it
Looks good, doesn’t it? Just as well really, because this Renault Scenic Vision Concept - a hydrogen-electric range extender that’s almost entirely recyclable - is here to give you a flavour of what a new, fully electric Scenic will look like when it lands in 2024. Yup, the Scenic’s making a comeback.
Before you get too excited, let’s qualify that: this concept previews the exterior design that we’ll see on the forthcoming electric Scenic, while all the futuristic bits are a nod to the sustainable, zero-carbon future the company is aiming for in the 2030s.
“The show car is the production car almost exactly,” Renault design director Gilles Vidal tells TG. “It will be called the Scenic,” he adds, although the firm is yet to decide if it’ll be ‘Scenic E-Tech’ a la the Megane E-Tech. And it’ll be a five-seater: Renault reckons it has other cars more suited to seating seven.
The design of the thing will be mimicked on Renault’s future electric products, with the exception of the Renault 5 and planned Renault 4 concept, which will be “standalone objects” that won’t “follow the rules like the others”. Intriguing.
“This [front light] signature is half Renault logo,” says Vidal. “And that makes it very recognisable, but also relevant for the brand. And then you can morph it around as much as you want. It will be on the car we’re talking about, and it will be used across the range in different manners and different ways.”
So what about the powertrain? The Scenic Vision Concept uses the same 160kW motor from the Megane, and you can bet your bottom dollar that the production version will do the same given that it’s built on an adapted version of the same CMF-EV platform.
This Renault Scenic Vision Concept previews an electric Scenic for 2024
Well, ish. This concept is a hydrogen-electric range-extender, but the exterior shape? Get used to it
FiestaST
Honorary Master
Renault Scenic returns as radical EV with hydrogen range extender
Renault Scenic concept previews 2024 electric SUV and plans for innovative hydrogen drivetrains
Renault will revive the Scenic in 2024 as a bold electric SUV, which it has previewed with a concept car featuring a radical hydrogen-electric powertrain.
Taking up the baton from the MPV built from 1991 to 2022, the new Scenic will sit above the Renault Mégane E-Tech Electric SUV in Renault’s EV line-up.
It will be launched with a conventional battery-electric powertrain, but the hydrogen- electric system in the concept reflects Renault’s “broader vision”, with the company citing that the hydrogen propulsion system would become more prevalent beyond 2030 for use in light commercial vehicles.
www.autocar.co.uk
Renault Scenic concept previews 2024 electric SUV and plans for innovative hydrogen drivetrains
Renault will revive the Scenic in 2024 as a bold electric SUV, which it has previewed with a concept car featuring a radical hydrogen-electric powertrain.
Taking up the baton from the MPV built from 1991 to 2022, the new Scenic will sit above the Renault Mégane E-Tech Electric SUV in Renault’s EV line-up.
It will be launched with a conventional battery-electric powertrain, but the hydrogen- electric system in the concept reflects Renault’s “broader vision”, with the company citing that the hydrogen propulsion system would become more prevalent beyond 2030 for use in light commercial vehicles.
Renault Scenic returns as radical EV with hydrogen range extender | Autocar
Renault Scenic concept previews 2024 electric SUV and plans for innovative hydrogen drivetrains
www.autocar.co.uk
FiestaST
Honorary Master
Renault Scenic Vision concept asks us to re-imagine cars
This isn’t just another concept from a French automaker, this isn’t just a rehashed Avantime, oh no. This is a completely fresh take on a best selling model from Renault, a model that has been responsible for school runs and camping trips in Europe for decades. You could say that Scenic was responsible for the education of a few generations of Europeans, heck - it probably had a helping hand in creating those generations… Enjoy the introduction of Scenic Vision from Renault:
Yes, Scenic "was" a very important car for Europe, it was because Renault stopped making it last year with only Grand Scenic having its life extended until 2023. The King is dead - long live the King!
With this new Scenic Concept, Renault is reviving the iconic name, but it is changing the class of the car - it’s no longer a minivan, it is a large cross over, still with lots of room for family, camping gear, dogs and whatever else gets taken on road trips. Initially only available with one motor but there’s a high possibility the twin-motor AWD will follow and no, it won’t be another RX4, this thing with or without all-wheel-drive looks like it can take you off the beaten track any time.
https://www.arenaev.com/renault_scenic_vision_concept_asks_us_to_reimagine_cars_-news-298.php
This isn’t just another concept from a French automaker, this isn’t just a rehashed Avantime, oh no. This is a completely fresh take on a best selling model from Renault, a model that has been responsible for school runs and camping trips in Europe for decades. You could say that Scenic was responsible for the education of a few generations of Europeans, heck - it probably had a helping hand in creating those generations… Enjoy the introduction of Scenic Vision from Renault:
Yes, Scenic "was" a very important car for Europe, it was because Renault stopped making it last year with only Grand Scenic having its life extended until 2023. The King is dead - long live the King!
With this new Scenic Concept, Renault is reviving the iconic name, but it is changing the class of the car - it’s no longer a minivan, it is a large cross over, still with lots of room for family, camping gear, dogs and whatever else gets taken on road trips. Initially only available with one motor but there’s a high possibility the twin-motor AWD will follow and no, it won’t be another RX4, this thing with or without all-wheel-drive looks like it can take you off the beaten track any time.
https://www.arenaev.com/renault_scenic_vision_concept_asks_us_to_reimagine_cars_-news-298.php
pinball wizard
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Yeah, I'll agree with Fiesta here, it's definitely you bro.
pinball wizard
Honorary Master
Re-imagine? That's just an Avantime, isn't it?