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Is this really neccessary?

I picked up on my Smoothie that the RED interface drops every 24hrs or so... is this practice really, really neccessary?

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TU
 
yes it is.

the resets are to check your bandwidth usage.. if there were no resets, then ISP's could not tell if you have for example exceeded your 3GB limit. if there were no resets, ADSL would be kinda uncapped...

oh and another reason why there are resets is so people cannot have permanent IP addresses.

cheers :)
 
And to think that if only the capping system could change...I.E prefferably uncapped (at some point) there wouldnt be a problem with static IP's and that would make it sooo much easier to stop fraud and the theft of accounts and makes it alot easier to track the abusers.. But then again we are used to stoopid south african policies that sometimes dont make much sense...
 
bollocks to the 24-hr reset issue...

According to hellskommels we're already WAY over our cap limit, and still haven't been capped, so this reset story of them is the biggest bull#### I've ever heard...

Gah... wish I could do something stadig en aaklig (slow and horrible) to them so that they would stop stupid things like 3Gb caps and 24hr resets and so on...

Surv0 said:
...and that would make it sooo much easier to stop fraud and the theft of accounts and makes it alot easier to track the abusers.. But then again we are used to stoopid south african policies that sometimes dont make much sense...
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These policies do make sense to them who've issued them as it brings them a lot of money in... if somebody steals your bandwidth, it just is too bad, you'll have to buy extra, and they make more money... :mad:
 
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PostmanPot said:
yes it is.

the resets are to check your bandwidth usage.. if there were no resets, then ISP's could not tell if you have for example exceeded your 3GB limit. if there were no resets, ADSL would be kinda uncapped...

oh and another reason why there are resets is so people cannot have permanent IP addresses.

cheers :)
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The ISP I am with calculate your bandwidth usage on the fly.
Actually until I joined them last month, I didn't know this was possible?
When you reach your Account Limit you are capped immediately.

What is annoying about the IP Reset today. I was sending an email and all of a sudden the email stopped, my skype connection died and about 30 seconds later my skype connection started up again.
Checked on-line and voilà my IP was reset at 8.50am.

I must set my alarm for 5.00am in the morning and reset my router at that time so that the IP changes at a time I am still sleeping. :)
However your efforts would be in vain if we have a power outage as the Router will reconfigure itself to that specific time of the day the power came back on.
So then I would need to wake up again at 5.00am and redo the Router Reset.
Lot of effort for very little gain.

The worst is if you happen to download something and are not using a download manager, as then the data downloaded up to that point of the reset is lost and you will have to redo your download and pay for the usage.
The other worst thing is playing a game on-line, that during the middle of a game you lose connection to the server as your IP was reset. Even worse when you try to rejoin the server and it is full as someone else got in before you.
Happened to me several times already playing Counterstrike. Very annoying.:mad:

As far as Telkom excuse that we need the resets to protect ourselves against hackers is just propaganda so that they can keep their diginet business flowing and those customers do not migrate to ADSL.
Telkom also spins us the story that they are protecting us from hackers.
Also a load of bollocks.
I would be better off securing my own IP, than every 24 hours getting someone else's IP. Who knows where that user has been on the internet before I acquired that IP?

Another thing.
I have another account with a well known ISP in South Africa which I use for short period of the month until it is capped. They reset the IP every 12 hours.
 
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Wrong Equipment

The_Unbeliever said:
Is this really neccessary?

I picked up on my Smoothie that the RED interface drops every 24hrs or so... is this practice really, really neccessary?

Regards

TU
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SAIX purchased the wrong equipment from Grintek when they started setting up ADSL. It was all the OLD stuff from the USA that was sold to them at a discounted price.
That's why there is this stupid 24 hour time-outs as the hardware and old software does not allow for live monitoring between the NAS and the accounting servers.
 
m0zy said:
SAIX purchased the wrong equipment from Grintek when they started setting up ADSL. It was all the OLD stuff from the USA that was sold to them at a discounted price.
That's why there is this stupid 24 hour time-outs as the hardware and old software does not allow for live monitoring between the NAS and the accounting servers.
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Jeepers.
You serious?

And to think we have paid millions to Telkom for ADSL Connectivity Rental for sub-standard DSlam's, software et al?

But hearing this I can well believe it.
A Company that is making Billions being penny wise, pound foolish. Figures.


Cheers, :)
BTTB
 
PostmanPot said:
yes it is.

the resets are to check your bandwidth usage.. if there were no resets, then ISP's could not tell if you have for example exceeded your 3GB limit. if there were no resets, ADSL would be kinda uncapped...

oh and another reason why there are resets is so people cannot have permanent IP addresses.

cheers :)
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Web Africa monitor your bandwidth usage realtime.
 
.geek said:
Web Africa monitor your bandwidth usage realtime.
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Not really. They send a radius accounting request to the NAS which returns your current bandwidth usage. That is not live monitoring on the NAS. And that is what is needed to replace the 24 hour timeouts.
 
The_Unbeliever said:
bollocks to the 24-hr reset issue...

According to hellskommels we're already WAY over our cap limit, and still haven't been capped, so this reset story of them is the biggest bull#### I've ever heard...
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what do you mean..?
 
PostmanPot said:
what do you mean..?
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According to Telkom, we've done (by now) more than 3Gb's of bandwidth, and if their spin are to be believed, we should have been capped last week already.

Utter b*****... if this 24-hr reset thingy was working, then we would've been capped, but no, it keeps on resetting the DSL router and we continue after a brief period of disconnectivity.

So somebody's spinning big tales somewhere along the line...
 
If there was proper competition in this country, caps would be much larger and uncapped would be much more affordable. We are held back by people in gov who know F-ALL about tech...
 
We all know this. Either way, MWeb caps you during your session if you exceed 3Gb. Surely all ISP's can just do this? Whether Web Africa monitor "realtime" or not, they are able to check your usage without you disconnecting.

Surely it's to do with Telkom not allowing static ADSL IP addresses?
 
I think other broadband providers where the traffic goes thru their network first all have realtime tracking. That actually would explain why they refused to change it and said the system was not capable, cause it really is due to it being old tech. :/ so we getting shafted with prices while using old eq stuff and icasa stays quiet.

Maybe 2/3/4GB is the hardware set cap limits hahaha
 
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The_Librarian said:
According to Telkom, we've done (by now) more than 3Gb's of bandwidth, and if their spin are to be believed, we should have been capped last week already.

Utter b*****... if this 24-hr reset thingy was working, then we would've been capped, but no, it keeps on resetting the DSL router and we continue after a brief period of disconnectivity.

So somebody's spinning big tales somewhere along the line...
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you obviously don't know how Telkom's capping and Bandwidth Pools work..
 
Seeing as Telkom drops you after being connected for 24 hours, regardless of what time you connected, how's about this to 'work around' the inconvenience of Telkom's 24 hour reset (coz it REALLY peeves me when I'm gaming and it happens) -

Set yer ADSL Modem/Router to bridged mode and then make the PPPoE dialup connection on yer PC. Assuming that you don't keep yer PC connected for more than 24 hours, then this SHOULD stop the inconvenience of losing your connection at inopportune times.

Granted - if you are hard capped, then you don'y have till the end of your '24 hour slot' to download more than your cap before Telkom cuts you off.......
 
Oh btw, Isp's choose the timeout value to be anything from 0.X-24hrs(default). Not sure shortest timeout value
 
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