50/50 gender parity in software and web development

[rietrot]

Not much anymore . I've got juniors for that

This solve the problem around women lifting.

Just appoint them in senior positions straight away.

 

[Lupus]

This solve the problem around women lifting.

Just appoint them in senior positions straight away.

Problem is, I do sometimes still go and lift servers.

 

[Azbubu]

As much as a feminist as I am, I also think this is wrong. The shortage* of women in certain sectors is not due to men.

*it can not even be called a shortage since a shortage is when something can not be obtained in sufficient amounts. What is a sufficient amount of female ? 75% of male? 100% of male?

 

[grok]

Plus peer programming is more fun if the other person doesn't smell of weed and 3day old meat supreme.

Who the hell do you work for?
Government perhaps?

 

[The Voice]

Seems right, we once had a lady come into our office of 8 guys and 1 lady and she's like look how unequal this is, why do you only have one lady? There should be 50/50, my boss turned around and asked her why isn't she in this office? She turned around and was like oh I don't like tech and you can't expect me to lift servers.

Ding, ding, motherfucken ding!

Working in IT it's a total sausage fest because women simply don't apply for tech jobs. We have 1 woman in our DBA team, a couple on the service desk, 1 in the Wintel team, but the rest in the company all gravitate to project management roles or HR (our 20 strong HR team is 100% female across 2 locations).

 

[Mista_Mobsta]

Anyone trying to force equality of outcome instead of encouraging equality of opportunity is an authoritarian idealist with little to no concern about people or free will.

This sums up SA's labour issues pretty nicely.

Remove/decrease barriers where possible for equal opportunity and watch the natural outcome unfold.

 

[Moosedrool]

Ding, ding, motherfucken ding!

Working in IT it's a total sausage fest because women simply don't apply for tech jobs. We have 1 woman in our DBA team, a couple on the service desk, 1 in the Wintel team, but the rest in the company all gravitate to project management roles or HR (our 20 strong HR team is 100% female across 2 locations).

3 girls in a lecture hall of 300 people. The lecturer and 2 others who didn't major in IT.

Must be men's fault.

 

[Lupus]

Ding, ding, motherfucken ding!

Working in IT it's a total sausage fest because women simply don't apply for tech jobs. We have 1 woman in our DBA team, a couple on the service desk, 1 in the Wintel team, but the rest in the company all gravitate to project management roles or HR (our 20 strong HR team is 100% female across 2 locations).

Yup even when I worked at IS, there very few women on the various teams, a tenth of the teams were women.

 

[John_Phoenix]

Who the hell do you work for?
Government perhaps?

Luckily I turned down a government dev job (deffo dodged a bullet) but no, mainly studio and dev house.

 

[C4Cat]

Ding, ding, motherfucken ding!

Working in IT it's a total sausage fest because women simply don't apply for tech jobs. We have 1 woman in our DBA team, a couple on the service desk, 1 in the Wintel team, but the rest in the company all gravitate to project management roles or HR (our 20 strong HR team is 100% female across 2 locations).

It's the chicken or the egg situation

 

[^^vampire^^]

I must say, I didn't know that it was THAT bad. That they would pay female software engineers more than men now, just to hire them.

I've never been convinced by the argument that women don't want to work in software engineering because of sexism or bias. Sexism and biases absolutely do exist, however, blaming the lack of female software engineers on that is an overreach.

One, it hasn't stopped women in other well paying fields, like law, accounting or project management. Do you really think lawyers are less sexist than software engineers? Please. Maybe it is better now, but I know for a fact that those old law firms were really old boys club. It must have been INCREDIBLY difficult to break into that, and yet women did it. Why is the same not true of software engineering?

Second, I don't think there is solid statistical evidence to back up that assertion. I think its just a lot of assumptions based on hot air.

Many moons ago when I started doing software development I landed my first job after completing my first qualification. I had been mucking around on computers since I was 4 years old, programming from about 10 or 11, helped doing some technical stuff for the Oprah Winfrey school while studying full time, built and sold a POS system to a restaurant and had done some web work in my personal capacity for a couple of clients. That first job I landed the princely sum of R6000 a month. My GF had a friend who had never really done anything software dev related before uni but heard software dev was lucrative so she studied software dev. She qualified 2 years after I did and landed her first job at R25k a month as she was a female in the field which was rare.