802.11 Wireless Setups

Is the following hardware enough to setup the Access Point Side?

D-LINK 2100 ACCESS POINT 108MB-802.11G
D-LINK G520 WIRELESS PCI CARD 108-MBPS
DIRECTIONAL PANEL ANTENNAE

Thanks
 
ive just put together a propasal for a townhouse complex as follows

1)linux box as a access point with a WG311 netgear card
2)9db external antenna
3)adsl router [sentech can be used but there problems]


the linux box acts as a PPPoE relay accepting pppoe on the wireless and relaying it over the ADSL router in bridge mode DHCP/DNS runs on the linux box but as the box itself does not have internet access [would in case of sentech] it is purely a gateway and not used for services/firewall

each person in the complex that wants to join will purchace a ADSL username and set up DUN as if they had a ADSL line ...

the saveing is obvious no line rental and the cost of a antenna/wi-fi card is comprable with that of a ADSL router/line install ... ...

now 20 users can access ADSL for 240pm with only one line charge ...

total of 280pm of course im not a slut but whore so i will charge a bit to [rental of server ....]

if anyone is intrested in the software i use has somthing like this in mind please contact me ...
 
Only problem, the DSLAM port is limited to 512k so then you gonna have 20 houses contending a maximum of 512k. Still a hell of alot cheaper but might get a bit slow if everyone is whoring!

There is no peace without war!!!
 
This topic is very close to being moved to the Off Topic section of the forum. However I believe it is in the interest of the Internet community of our beloved country that this kind of conversation get its proper place on the forum.

I will leave it here for the moment. It was mentioned in one of the responses that room be made for 802.11 community wireless discussions. I will mention this to RPM. Who knows...? [:D]

Cheers
Antowan

### What we need in South Africa is cheap 24/7, always on Internet for under R300 a month. ###
 
yeah concidering when i first got into internet companies of 20 were sharing 28.8kbs :) it is a lot better ...

the reason i say 20 is when they going full tilt it is approx 28.8 speeds [25.6 8bit = 28.8 9bit exactly the same] as this is unlikely speeds close to 57.6k should be obtained [normal modem speed @ 50% usage ...]
 
I don't think many will complain about the speeds... 512k is overkill anyway when you only have 3 Gigs! At least this way people in the complex get cheap 24/7 access and can use the money they save on rental to purchase extra accounts. Nice way to kick Telkom in the crotch [;)]
 
With complex sharing via a wireless conection using a central linux/windows box, you would have use bandwidth limiter or similar software so according to usage and who is on when, bandwidth will get split evenly. Traffic shaping would have to come into play so 1 person downloading ISO's at 50KB/s does not kill it for everyone. So 20 ppl connecting in peak time would actually be looking at 25.6kb/s where as in the eve you could be looking at the 100kb/s to 256kb/s. So this senario could play out like Sentech, just far to slow and rarely decent.

There is no peace without war!!!
 
I don't think bandwidth management is necessary with 512k split between just 20 people. TCP/IP automatically shares bandwidth equally between sessions so other people would only notice a difference if someone had a lot of downloads going at the same time (in which case they would hit their cap pretty quickly anyway!)
 
Priest, i think you mean kbps and not kb/s [:)] 25.6kbps is around 3.1kb/s. Not bad considering what they're paying etc

But trust me on this, put a bandwidth limiter on, folks would b1tch and moan like crazy mofo's

Sentech, 99% downtime guarunteed!
 
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yeah yeah get all pedantic on me. 1KB = 8Kb bla bla yack yack. then i can correct you then if u want to be silly.

"25.6Kbps is around 3.2(KB/s)" the case changes to [:o)]
Scientifically I would be right anyways as / in science means per hence KM/h and not KMph, but yes, in computing terminology i will admit i am wrong[xx(]

There is no peace without war!!!
 
Good Grief! /apologies to Peanuts...
 
loosecannon

What you have done for the complex sounds good, maybe you could post a brief overview for us guys looking to do that in our complexes/neighbourhoods?

Thanks
 
Can you also post distantce between the houses, especially the furtherest and the central node. Do they all have external antena's and is it essential for LOS.

There is no peace without war!!!
 
on BW management the linux kernel allows SFQ/HTB so it is easy to setup but the most important BW management gets done on the ATM network so it will be equitable.

for the bandwidth sluts who want to pull plenty they should put in there own ADSL this is not about high speed internet but affordable internet and in a legal way screwing telkom out of line/call charges ...

it is real basic ..

1)linux box setup as AP with wireless card
2)ADSL router in bridge mode pluged into ethernet card/hub
3)Roaring Penguin pppoe-relay software to listen on wi-fi and forward to ethernet
4)clients use standard pppoe dialers with there own ADSL username to connect as per usual but over a wi-fi not ethernet card.

the linux box need not run any services but it could say be wired upto a sentech 512kbs connection and run SMTP/PROXY for all browsing/mail to go accross sentech and all else via the ADSL ... this will be the best of both worlds and could prehaps cater for more users ...
 
loosecannon

Thanks for the info, I am quite keen to get this going with a couple of neighbours (complex as well).

Just a question, with 5 or 6 users using one ADSL connection in the way you mentioned, each using their own ISP account, how would latencies be affected. Would people be able to game locally with a decent-ish ping, while other people were browsing for example?

Thanks
 
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Till later .. Wireless is the future , hopefully without TELKOM
 
Yeah, I've given some thought to this type of configuration late last year, Maintenance is a small hiccup, the only way to do it is to monitor the usage and sadly enough, the solution is to prioritise the not so bandwidth intensive users so they have a pleasurable browsing experience.
You have to keep in mind the type of users in a complex. in an office environment, people are too busy working to bother leaving kaZaa/shareaza running full time, and policy generally restricts it, but in a complex, 60% of users have kids between 10 and 18 years old, this age group is particuarly renowned for music/movies sharers/downloaders.

2nd issue, given the nature of the connections, I'm not too clued on adsl accounts/lines/ip's, are IP's allocated by line, or account, if by line, you have to have a brilliant NAT system in place, people will not accept the fact that they paying for a service, and cannot use MSN file sharing/voice.
Do a little research on it, and you'll see that the only way for it to work, would be a uPNP PROXY/Firewall, or port forwarding, since there are 20 users, port forwarding is not an option (MSN Uses ports 4096 through 65537).

I've managed a solution when I was researching it, but it wasn't too stable. Its a damn pity the most popular messenger is so CR@P
 
For anyone that cares about the law, I also spoke to ICASA regarding this, andries said it is most illegal. Although I managed to find some loopholes if the townhouse is sectional title.
so whatever you do, don't go commercial, keep it small and for your own townhouse.
 
thx dorris ... on your previous questions here is where the beauty is ...

1)each user has there own ADSL account and ATM will sort the management out as they will be contesting a 512kb pipe i always set up SFQ on the gateway and that works very nicely remember you will not be seen any of the traffic only raw ethernet [bridge] traffic

2)every ras connnection is a new IP so there are no problems with nat and the like ...

if there was just one IP assigned for argument sake it would be almost impossible to allow them to run ad-hoc services ...
 
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