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MrG

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Okay, some of us, like myself know our lines are 8Mbit capable. What prevents Telkom from giving us the 8Mbit lines. Technology or ATM bandwidth further up towards the exchange?
 
HaNsA said:
8mb :eek:
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ADSL, as it is, not ADSL2+ can handle 8Mbit. If you are within 2km of your DSLAM you can get 8Mbit ADSL.

ADSL 2+ is 24Mbit as I understand it.

Question again, what stops Telkom from giving us 8Mbit, even if its local, I understand their international suffers as it is.

Also the international speeds (without threading) is that slow because of the shaping, lack of bandwidth? What exactly?
 
no competition...why invest in the technology and bandwidth if you can make just as much money peddling 384 k lines to the public?
 
Nothing that I know off. Their d-slams should be able to handle it, as the speed is within the ADSL spec. Only if you want to go higher than 8Mb, you'll need ADSL2+.

Wikipedia confirm the speeds:
For conventional ADSL, downstream rates start at 128 kbit/s (though a minimum offering of 512 kbit/s is more common) and typically reach 8 Mbit/s within 1.5 km (5000 ft) of the DSLAM equipped central office or remote terminal. Upstream rates start at 64 kbit/s and typically reach 128 kbit/s or 256 kbit/s but can go as high as 1024 kbit/s. The name ADSL Lite is sometimes used for the slower versions.
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According to the above we have ADSL Light. Maybe Telkom is protecting us from the heavy version for our own safety.
 
Because they've just release 4mb, they need to rape you on current prices for another year (until maybe next year when the next batch of upgrades are due assuming they follow recent trends).
 
If I calculate it right, with an 8 megabit/sec line running flat out, you could reach your 3 gigabyte cap in about 50 minutes. A bit pointless really thanks to Telkom and its caps.
 
That's assuming that you have a 3GB cap, many of us do have a higher cap ;) There are alternatives to SAIX, even though not many, there still are. We will see more benefits once the landing stations are opened up next year.
 
for me personally, i'm quite happy with 4mbit.

I'm struggling to get sources that will allow full 4mbit speeds.

Currently i only get full thruput with about 4-5 torrents running at once with lots of seeders.

I do think telkom and other ISP's should try and do something about our local cap maybe giving 50gigs free or somethin'. or maybe increase the average cap of 3gigs to at least 10gigs also for R250 +- (that would be nice, but ye. i also know there aint no chance in hell that telkom would be in a "giving" mood) :>
 
yeah at 400kbps you can get a prison break in 15min who needs to get it in 7.5 min? ;)
 
Napalm said:
for me personally, i'm quite happy with 4mbit.

I'm struggling to get sources that will allow full 4mbit speeds.

Currently i only get full thruput with about 4-5 torrents running at once with lots of seeders.

I do think telkom and other ISP's should try and do something about our local cap maybe giving 50gigs free or somethin'. or maybe increase the average cap of 3gigs to at least 10gigs also for R250 +- (that would be nice, but ye. i also know there aint no chance in hell that telkom would be in a "giving" mood) :>
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According to the latest adsl regulations local should be uncapped like it always were. afaik local bandwidth doesnt cost telkom anything except for the servicing of the equipment.
 
DigitalSOldier , yeah i also understand it that way. But its been months now since it was suppose to be made "law" that local should be uncapped / free. But ICASA wrote those regulations too vague, and with many loopholes...

As i understand it, Telkom replied by saying that the regulations didn't specify that it should be free. But did specify it should be uncapped. Meaning they can offer a 3gig capped package. but once your done u must be able to use more / buy extra. basically being charged per gig for local data afterwards...

Loop holes.. loop holes. Icasa makes the skipping rope. and Telkom does the jumping thru it :>>
 
first they planned together and conspired to make loopholes so nothin would change :D....but it wiuld make us say whoopeee to no avail
 
You would also ave to be just about ontop of the DSLAM to get that speed. That would mean having to have 10 times more DSLAMS which I think Telkom would see as expensive.
 
Indeed, however most people in my area (including my line).. speaking of Durbanbille/Kenridge/Tygervalley can have 8Mbit lines cause we are close enough to the DSLAM.

nothing really stops them from making an Up to 8Mbit service.

Edited: just wated my time by sending Telkom an e-mail asking them the question. Lets see what they say.... probably nothing :D
 
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I dont think their exchanges can handle it. Last I heard they are adding capacity but it's still to slow. All they care about now is to milk us to the ground. return on investment is what they after. Until they start spending more on infrastructure, I doubt Telkom will upgrade us to 8Mbit lines.
 
My inside man in Telkom told me the lines are capable of up to 16mbit. No jokes. So just wait...you should see 8mbit soon. ;)
 
Maestr0 said:
My inside man in Telkom told me the lines are capable of up to 16mbit. No jokes. So just wait...you should see 8mbit soon. ;)
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Many of the lines are but are the bits at either end? :confused:
 
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