a deceased estate

Candystore

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Hi

I have a few questions about a deceased estate.

If a man and a woman is married in community of property and she is a beneficiary of his life insurance, does the insurance go to her when he dies or does it fall into the deceased estate? What happens if his estate is bankrupt?

If the man had pension funds available in a preservation fund, does it go to her or to the deceased estate? There is the current wife and there is also an ex-wife who currently gets monthly maintenance.
 
Life insurance payouts go to the nominated beneficiary, not the estate, afaik.
Pension goes into the estate.
 
As I understand it it would not form part of the estates 'assets' and would go to the nominated beneficiary.

I was under the impression that the trustees of the relevant pension fund must decide who the "dependants" are and how it gets divided between them (if there are more than one dependant).
 
In terms of Section 37(c) of The Pension Funds Act:

Where a member dies before the normal retirement age and while a member of a retirement fund the provisions of section 37C of the Pension Funds Act, (the Act) must be followed in regard to the death benefit payable by the fund.

This section is one fraught with great difficulty, and must be carefully followed by the trustees. Note too that the trustees are given at least twelve months to decide on the distribution of the award.

In its simplest terms, the act provides for a strict order of distribution of the benefit.

The benefit is not to form part of any estate and the fund must make payment of the benefit to dependants, and, if the fund cannot locate any dependants, to nominees; if there are no nominees, the payment must be made to the estate.
If the member has nominated beneficiaries to benefit from the pension benefit then and in such event the trustees must make the award in those proportions as they see fit, to the dependants and the nominees.
Note, that the trustees have twelve months in which to locate the dependants and a valid proportion might be 0%.
“Dependant” is defined in the Act. A dependant is a person in respect of whom the member is legally liable for maintenance or that person was factually or legally dependant on the deceased member for maintenance. It also specifically makes spouses and children dependants in terms of the act and those persons must be provided for out of the death benefits payable.

“Spouse” is given a wide meaning and includes parties to a customary union in terms of any eastern religion.

Thus the trustees must establish who the persons are who were dependent on the member. These dependants are his children and the spouse who was married to the member.

The trustees would have to investigate the matter and do all in their power to trace any dependants. Once they had traced these dependants the next stage of the enquiry would be to examine the needs of those dependants. The needs of the dependants would be indicated by the income already available to them, their living expenses and any costs and charges which they would incur every month, any recurrent expenses, and so on.

Once their needs had been established, the trustees would make the necessary award from the amounts available for distribution.

The trustees, once they are satisfied with the distribution, would then make the payment. They have a period of twelve months in which to make their decision, and they would also have to make the decision to pay the amounts either to the dependants or to a trust – established on behalf of the minor dependants.

The investigation is a factual one and the trustees must conduct the investigation as thoroughly as possible, taking all surrounding factors and circumstances into account. The wishes or otherwise of the deceased, and the nomination of beneficiaries which he has made, can be largely ignored – certainly for the first part of the enquiry.

Once the trustees have been able to establish who the dependants are, and what their needs and requirements would be, the benefit can then be distributed accordingly.
 
Relevant and timely - a letter from FNB Trust about my will:

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It is important to ensure that sufficient provision has been made for some or all of the above [expenses]. Remember that if you have nominated private individuals as beneficiaries on your life cover, the proceeds will pay to those beneficiaries and not into your estate or testamentary trust.
If there is a liquidity shortfall, the Executor will approach the beneficiaries of your estate to meet outstanding debt and if no other option exists, will then have no choice but to liquidate certain assets to meet the shortfall
The expenses they're talking about are: Funeral, medical, estate admin fees, conveyancing fees, outstanding income tax, outstanding debts (eg lease, credit cards, bond) and estate duty
 
In terms of Section 37(c) of The Pension Funds Act:

does this also refer to a pension preservation fund ?

what about if the man has a wife and an exwife? what if the wife is nominated but the exwife can also be considered to be a dependant?
 
Depending on the type there will be retirement funds plus death benefit or just retirement funds. Death benefit if present will be paid to the nominated beneficiary and if none was nominated then to the deceased estate.

Retirement funds will be paid to dependants/relatives according to most needy.
 
Depending on the type there will be retirement funds plus death benefit or just retirement funds. Death benefit if present will be paid to the nominated beneficiary and if none was nominated then to the deceased estate.

Retirement funds will be paid to dependants/relatives according to most needy.

Who would be more needy - minor child with current wife, or ex wife who is unemployed?
 
does this also refer to a pension preservation fund ?

what about if the man has a wife and an exwife? what if the wife is nominated but the exwife can also be considered to be a dependant?

Was the divorce pre 2007 or was there a pension fund benefit awarded in terms of the divorce?
 
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