A PC case story.

Moosedrool

Honorary Master
Joined
May 24, 2012
Messages
15,014
Reaction score
13,930
Location
In die bos.
TLDR version. Moosedrool doesn't understand cooling and couldn't believe how PC cases actually matter.

OK I thought I was going crazy. But this is also a stab on a big ass hardware supplier that shall remain unnamed cause I still have to do business with them for our data centre shyte.

In 2020 I bought a rig with a i7 9700K and RTX 2080 ti 16gb ram. Upped the ram to 32gb not long after. Man was this thing stable. I was ironically surprised that the whole system came to me pre assembled and thought that's nice. However this particular design had my cpu cooking on 80C often. Thermal throttles would kick in and I get bad fps especially in things like VRC or heavy graphical applications. Weird thing is that only started later but there might be a reason for that.

What surprised me is that they gave that board a 650W PSU despite asking for something efficient and upgradable. Normally I would say the wattage based on my own research but I've kinda been out of the loop for decades on pc building and stuff and don't really know how efficient and green these cards are.

It worked fine so I didn't worry but slowly I started adding drives and ram. In fact the PC has 3 ssd's and 1 16tb NAS drive now. 1 pcie OS, 2 pcie software, 3 SATA SSD Games and a backup SATA HDD. At the same time I installed the extra hardware I upgraded to Win 11 cause that's the thing I do.

The system was slower, fps drops the works and cpu hitting hard with the variable fan. Had to get a tool to monitor it and saw this thing was nearly constantly peaking at 80C. Replaced thermal paste and stuff even on the GPU which is a nightmare on these cards. And despite fixing the card crank up the cpu was running slow. It was running pretty much the same temps. I thought this was a windows 11 f#ckup but didn't think of the extra stuff I did at the same time.

Started looking into power and yeah the machine needed a bit more juice. So replaced that with a 750W to leave a bit overhead for the gpu to play with but that didn't work with the temp issues. Now my CPU drags 4.5Ghz for bursts every time knocked down by the thermal throttle. I dropped the system by 10C just running it open in summer. But this is not ideal, dust and the elements gets too it quick. So this December I tried something.

a Case.

I didn't want liquid cooling cause I'm worried of leaks and **** that would go unnoticed but replaced the CPU cooler with a fat motherF duel fan ridiculous looking thing, :ROFL: And a new case with 3 fans in front. Now back in the day I always found these very cosmetic for a desktop. Unlike a server which just pulls airconditioned air from the front and spits it out the back. These desktop cases flash and look like a Christmas tree with all that RGB crap and looks stupid and cosmetic. But WTF? This thing is running literally 30C cooler. Begging the question, is it just the CPU cooler that was crap or the whole rig design?

Running VR in the middle of summer and my CPU isn't going over 50C atm. Gaining a massive performance increase by boosting without worrying about the throttle. Now I know the PC builder edge lords is going to hammer me but seriously last time I was concerned was in the 2000's and these things where super cosmetic rather than actually having function.

I'm honestly surprised at the performance boost by just spending a few bucks on stuff that seems meaningless.
 
Last edited:
Just note, some 'air' cases are better equipped than other cases. When I compare the Montech Air 100 to the Lian Li 205M, stock, the 205M is simply a better cooling case. I swap a lot around, and the Lian Li 205M is still cooler.

The Lian Li 216... I don't know what they did there, but that case is cool. It beats my Deepcool CH560.

For the most value, the Montech AIR 903 is the best. I know it gets marginally better results than the Montech Sky Two GX. For a workstation machine I would recommend the 903 over the Sky Two GX.

At these cool numbers all these cases are nice. It is only that some are a bitch to build in.
 
Haswell, she is still my daily driver.

Haswell.jpg

Old, but can do everything I need to do. Yes, I mod the RAM. Those heatsinks would not have worked with any other air cooler.
 
Well, without knowing what case the OP had before, and the cable management/fan placement, it's hard to say what helped the most.
Could very well be you had a crappy airflow case and the new design is much better.

Probably didn't even need to go the water-cooling route but you changed two big factors at the same time.
 
Well, without knowing what case the OP had before, and the cable management/fan placement, it's hard to say what helped the most.
Could very well be you had a crappy airflow case and the new design is much better.

Probably didn't even need to go the water-cooling route but you changed two big factors at the same time.

Can't take a pic right now but the old case was meh. No proper intake at the front and 1 fan. Cables where out of the way and managed in the side panel same with new.

New case is this:

1734791615830.png
 
Can't take a pic right now but the old case was meh. No proper intake at the front and 1 fan. Cables where out of the way and managed in the side panel same with new.

New case is this:

View attachment 1782724

Not a bad case. Some people like the A21 PLUS. It is also BTF-ready, so eventually, it will serve you a long time to an upgrade path. It will still be a way to go, but I think ABTF/BTF will become a standard in the years to come.

I have one BTF case, and I haven't used it. Just sits in the box.

ARGB has some use cases: you can sync it to your temps, which is actually nice. I don't like the rainbow lights. My case lights are either white, blue or purple. No strips, eeuw.
 
Top
Sign up to the MyBroadband newsletter
X