ADSL 2 plus

[Darth Garth]

We just forget that sometimes they are not busy replacing but calling their friends everywhere in the Africa to say hello and that it is the lucky winner of the draw who pay the bill ...

Do you have proof of this as I am sure that Noseweek and the Sunday press would be very interested or you are just sucking it out of your thumb ???.

 

[Daveogg]

Back to the topic

Just to answer the original question, a few months back i applied for adsl and got the too far from the exchange line. I threw a bit of a wobbly and ended up in contact with one of the senior network engineers at helKom who explained that they were busy 1) installing mini dslams at the end of fibre in roadside boxes and 2) were busy testing a new "extended range (up to 7KM)" Adsl which should begin to be implemented mid 2005. So i guess thats it.

 

[Noble_Nanobot]

Do you have proof of this as I am sure that Noseweek and the Sunday press would be very interested or you are just sucking it out of your thumb ???.

...... ....... could it be? ..... You know I once had a bill that stated I made calls to Tanzania, UK, Belgium and a lot of other countries and other local numbers I didn't know of! Even my brother has experienced that on his bill too? The funny thing is that at the client services centre they did't even ask me whether I'm sure I did'nt make those calls ... they just told me to underline those I made myself and ammended the bill ...... .... as if they already knew/ are used to what had happend ....? They were'nt puzzled at all?

I don't really know who actually makes these calls but there is a sense of truth in what you saying even if you were sucking it out of your thumb Col90


Nuff said

PEACE!!!

 

[ic]

Those sort of calls are organised by syndicates that get people to go down into telkom holes & hack into the physical cables- at least that's what was shown on Carte Blanche.

 

[col90]

Calm down guys, it was just a bit of joke.
It seems that some people does not understand.

Anyway, true or not true, that is not the problem. It is easy to call from a box as it is cable and that if you "plug" a phone on it (the blue one to make test for instance), you can dial a number and call where you want, Wherever it is, as long as the line is not bared.

For the holes & hack, somebody once stole this cable connected to my house. It is copper and you can resell copper so no wonder. (Be careful, no proof...no accusation)

 

[Robin Hood]

Just boaght a Billion 7100SV........no ADSL 2+.....but i don't care.....cause....whats the diff??...maby in 10 years time you could "maby" use ADSL 2+...lol

 

[kingmonty]

Telkom are actively busy with mass upgrades to their current network. This is good news: they're beginning to catch on that they need to improve their stuff when the SNO goes online. This is what we want: competition.

 

[doobiwan]

Or the financial disposition of your neighbourhood. There's a higher ADSL penetration in affluent areas with the current costs. It's there same old arguement, when they can't make easy money from expanding in the rich area's they'll drop the price and move into the next income bracket.

Slowly working their way down using pricing to control delivery.

 

[Slinky511nx7]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but if Telkom is capable of providing 4Mbit or 8Mbit ADSL and are just limiting us for a laugh, does that mean that when/if the SNO gets access to the local loop, could they not offer these speeds immediately????

 

[doobiwan]

Yup, technically they could offer up to 12/24Mbps, that's the limit of ADSL2+, which is the equipment everyoens using.

 

[LongOne]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but if Telkom is capable of providing 4Mbit or 8Mbit ADSL and are just limiting us for a laugh, does that mean that when/if the SNO gets access to the local loop, could they not offer these speeds immediately????

I do not think Telkom is limiting anything just for fun. They are running a business and therefore have to make sure that they can deliver on what they offer. They will therefore not offer faster speeds if they are not 100% sure that they can maintain such speeds. I know not everyone loves Telkom but I think we should also look at reality - Telkom is running a business with all the risks associated with that and they have a duty towards their shareholders and the public to manage such risks responsibly.

 

[qdada]

I just think the upgrade may have something to do with delivery of video content.

 

[justinct]

I think the anc is pushing them for faster speeds for this video uplink and wireless connections to informal settlements so they can have a nationwide broadcase of their rallies and meetings.

 

[morebroadband]

Telkom is milking us for every cent they can. They stall on delivering new technologies as long as possible because they are trying to maintain profits and revenues and legacy equipment.

It makes sense that Telkom is readying itself for competition, and only when this competition arrives will they roll out competitive products. Video over broadband, much faster connection and abolishing this ridiculous CAP will all suddenly appear the moment the SNO and others start offering us great products at competitive prices. This is why it is crucial to continue applying as much pressure on Telkom as possible, bacause who knows how long the SNO will take to roll out broadband to the masses.

I find it strange that Telkom is not grilled after they drop the prices - as they were screaming bloody murder that they could not afford to drop prices, but then do when the pressure arrives, they turn around just before ICASA are to reveal a damming report, and drop their prices. Bring on the SNO!

 

[doobiwan]

Telkom is running a business with all the risks associated with that and they have a duty towards their shareholders and the public to manage such risks responsibly

What risks? they're making obscene profits, they're a monopoly protected by the state. They could be selling cans with a piece of string and we'd have to use it because it's all the offered.

Fact - TK is bullsh!tting everyone about the costs of the network and racking in the rewards. not just ADSL, but normal lines corporate bandwidth, everything! Lets talk reasonalbe doubt- in every other market where the encumbents have used the same arguements (Geography, demography economy etc) and threatened the same repercussions to try and protect their markets, once they've been deregulated have fallen to a similar level, miles below Telkoms current "Best we can do"