ADSL and Satellite

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Satellite together with ADSL certainly does work. I've done a few tests and I thought I would share the results and my thoughts.

Speed test done at 5pm.

<b>1. ADSL Alone</b>

http test through MyADSL: <font color="red">26.63kB/sec</font id="red">
http test through Telkom: <font color="red">77.5kB/sec</font id="red">
ftp test through Telkom: <font color="red">55kB/sec</font id="red">

<b>2. Satellite using ADSL line</b>

http test through MyADSL: <font color="red">10.23kB/sec</font id="red">
http test through Telkom: <font color="red">19kB/sec</font id="red">
ftp test through Telkom: <font color="red">12kB/sec</font id="red">

As you can see, ADSL alone is a great deal faster than satellite. But I've found that using the satellite on the ADSL line is faster than using satellite without the ADSL line. In the past I used to pull my hair out because satellite surfing was so slow.

In my opinion, I would settle for the slower speeds listed above, if it means I am not capped.

I'm incredibly against having to spend another R350/month for satellite on top of the R950 for the ADSL line, but I would prefer to spend R350 extra and get unlimited downloads against spending R219 for an extra 3GB.

So I have decided to keep my satellite connection until Telkom stops ripping us off and offers us a reasonable solution.


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Same here Vquest.

I have seen much higher speeds after about 9pm through the satellite. I once downloaded a 600meg Oracle CD from Oracle's website in less than an hour. That was at 1.5mbit/sec, so at certain times of the day, it is much faster than ADSL even.

I will also only cancel the satellite when Telkom fixes ADSL,
 
guys, please help me to get satellite connection.

i got adsl + 2 account..
and i have satellite dish for DSTV(it it same one that uses for satellite internet?)

please give me some estimates on satellite internet initial cost.
and whether i can use the DSTV dish or not.

thanks guys!
 
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by desraid</i>
<br />guys, please help me to get satellite connection.

i got adsl + 2 account..
and i have satellite dish for DSTV(it it same one that uses for satellite internet?)

please give me some estimates on satellite internet initial cost.
and whether i can use the DSTV dish or not.

thanks guys!
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Yes, you can use your DSTV dish, but you will need to have it modified with a Dual LNB so that you can watch DSTV and use satellite internet at the same time. I really can't estimate costs for you, but what I suggest you do is decide whether you want to go with Mweb or Tiscali/Worldonline and contact them for some pricing. You can also find out who does the satellite installations and see if you can get a cheaper price directly from them.

It's not going to be a cheap experience, as you will have to pay for the equipment plus installation plus subs.

From Mwebs page I see they charge R1999 for the receiver card, but I'm almost sure you can find that cheaper elsewhere.

Subs costs R350 at WOL and R325 at Mweb.

Hope this helps.


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Another speed test done at 5am this time.

<b>1. ADSL Alone</b>

http test through MyADSL: <font color="red">37.98kB/sec</font id="red">
http test through Telkom: <font color="red">73.2kB/sec</font id="red">
ftp test through Telkom: <font color="red">54kB/sec</font id="red">

<b>2. Satellite using ADSL line</b>

http test through MyADSL: <font color="red">15.38kB/sec</font id="red">
http test through Telkom: <font color="red">21.2kB/sec</font id="red">
ftp test through Telkom: <font color="red">16kB/sec</font id="red">



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WOL offers receiver card @ R999.00 Incl VAT.

ok, the monthly subs doesn't differ much between mweb and tiscali.
so i wonder if the internet access speed differs in between? ;-)

thanks for the help!
 
That sounnds about the right price for a receiver card. Not sure why Mweb is so much more expensive, but then again, they are more expensive on most of their products.

In my experience there is no difference between Mweb and WOL - they both go through Infosat. I've worked a lot on a clients satellite connection through Mweb and then worked on mine through WOL and can't see a difference.


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Hi guys,

Can someone please post a "how to" guide to set up the PPP tunnel etc.
Would really app it

Regards

Gerrit Louw
 
Hi Gerrit

I did nothing more than create a VPN connection and used it together with my ADSL which was already setup on my machine.


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Hi all,

What is the format for Mweb VPN tunnel username :[email protected] ?

Mweb Broadband guys is gone home already and noby else can help me. I'm sure there was something else in the username after the @ sign

regards

Gerrit Louw
 
Sorry mate, unable to help you with that one.


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VQuest - maybe give us some speed stats for international sites? I have SCREAMING (never slower than 40k) local connections, it's international where sat would help.

Artagra
 
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by desraid</i>
<br />WOL offers receiver card @ R999.00 Incl VAT.

ok, the monthly subs doesn't differ much between mweb and tiscali.
so i wonder if the internet access speed differs in between? ;-)

thanks for the help!
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All the isp are resselers of infosat sattelite service so the speeds are the same
 
Is there anybody here that uses Mweb for there Sat service. I'm batteling to get my ADSL and dish to work together and Mweb says they dont support it.

Any help would be app.

Regards

Gerrit Louw
 
how does this work? do you have a *normal* ADSL line with a satellite downlink as well. So you can get to your cap and continue downloading on Sat? With bursty speeds and all (minimum 64kbps apparently-which cant be said about ADSL [8D]). Now does the 3GB cap affect uploads as well. Because if it doesnt then it would be a good idea to leave P2P running and share gigs of stuff (to repay all those overseas folks for the "This is Africa" excuse.. anyway .. off topic.

Sounds like a plan. You use the satellite until Cap or with the cap? To clarify, will this then equal and effective 512+64? Can someone please provide the techical details since this seems to be a workable solution.

How come were the speeds slower for Sat vs ADSL? Do you NOT receive traffic at all via the ADSL line (but only send). I think at the moment, the sat option is the best. Remember that overseas many people dont pay for local calls AND get cheap DSL services.
Since a lot of people have DSTV then it would be quite viable to 'switch' to satellite internet if the dialin number was 0800 or something.

Why was there never an 0800 number for Telkom ISP? That would stop a lot of moaning (and pure money making). Or account capping at say R1000 a month. They just dont shwo creativity like the UK etc telcos do...except for our Cell phone system. Why can our cellular industry operate as a 1st world operative within a 4th world country?

Hope this post evokes some new angles on the situation..
 
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">how does this work? do you have a *normal* ADSL line with a satellite downlink as well. So you can get to your cap and continue downloading on Sat? With bursty speeds and all (minimum 64kbps apparently-which cant be said about ADSL [8D]). Now does the 3GB cap affect uploads as well. Because if it doesnt then it would be a good idea to leave P2P running and share gigs of stuff (to repay all those overseas folks for the "This is Africa" excuse.. anyway .. off topic.<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote"></font id="quote">
<font color="red">I'm unfortunately unable to give you a very technical answer. I don't know how it works, but it does work.</font id="red">

<font color="red">Yes, you use the satellite on your existing ADSL line. Having the two together has greatly improved the satellite alone speeds. Best of all is that upload speeds have also greatly improved. As you know, satellite uses your 56k modem to upload, so you get modem speeds. But using ADSL and satellite the speed is great. At first I thought maybe my uploads were going via plain ADSL but upon checking my ADSL logs, no uploads are indicated.</font id="red">

<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Sounds like a plan. You use the satellite until Cap or with the cap? To clarify, will this then equal and effective 512+64? Can someone please provide the techical details since this seems to be a workable solution.<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote"></font id="quote">

<font color="red">I've been using the satellite with ADSL for the past week or so. Since then, I have not touched any of my 3GB, so this way you won't ever get capped. Unless Telkom decide to be *$#^#^ and find a way of stopping this. But I can't see why they would, as I'm sure this is taking the strain off their precious bandwidth, or is it?</font id="red">

<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">How come were the speeds slower for Sat vs ADSL? Do you NOT receive traffic at all via the ADSL line (but only send). I think at the moment, the sat option is the best. Remember that overseas many people dont pay for local calls AND get cheap DSL services.
Since a lot of people have DSTV then it would be quite viable to 'switch' to satellite internet if the dialin number was 0800 or something.<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote"></font id="quote">

<font color="red">Yes, the speeds were slower for Satellite with ADSL than for ADSL alone, BUT they were faster than Satellite alone. I'm presuming that the Satellite is the bottleneck. So you're not getting Satellite + ADSL speed at all. Well, not in my experience anyway.</font id="red">



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Ok well, I might have to disagree with myself. I've done some more tests. Speed seems to fluctuate a great deal, but yesterday I downloaded a 700MB file in 2h45m. Satellite+ADSL

I had 7 threads running and was getting up to 255mB/sec combined total - and thats on all international sites. I've certainly never received those speeds with ADSL alone. So, hmmmm...more tests I guess.


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My concern is whether or not the 3GB cap applies to uploads.. otherwise you may as well leave p2p client running and share some files. I dont think this is the case though. Traffic is traffic. I guess one doesnt even need to upload 3GB in a month anyways.. [8D]
But as usual, you need to PAY more to get better service (by getting Satellite internet) makin our ADSL even MORE expensive...
 
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