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ADSL bonding threatening Diginet
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kilos
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Disadvantages (recap)
No SLA
Slow upload speeds 640k versus 4Mb/s x no of circuits (download)
Interesting article on implementing DSL bonding with some opensource software, old PC and the Sangoma's S518 ADSL PCI Card or the Alcatel Speedtouch DSL modem
Zyxel dedicated DSL bonding router
Billion DSL bonded router BiPAC 7522(G)
No SLA
Slow upload speeds 640k versus 4Mb/s x no of circuits (download)
Interesting article on implementing DSL bonding with some opensource software, old PC and the Sangoma's S518 ADSL PCI Card or the Alcatel Speedtouch DSL modem
Zyxel dedicated DSL bonding router
Billion DSL bonded router BiPAC 7522(G)
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Using Diginet and ADSL where I work.
We use the ADSL for browsing and the Telkom exchange went down taking all ADSL lines down.
It took Telkom 4 days to fix the problem ... fortunately we had the Diginet lines to fall back to.
Upload speeds are a problem with ADSL and Telkom are deliberately restricting that to ensure their Diginet products keep raking in the profits.
We use the ADSL for browsing and the Telkom exchange went down taking all ADSL lines down.
It took Telkom 4 days to fix the problem ... fortunately we had the Diginet lines to fall back to.
Upload speeds are a problem with ADSL and Telkom are deliberately restricting that to ensure their Diginet products keep raking in the profits.
Jip. They don't want to offer SDSL, as a lot of SME's would go that route, instead of diginet.
snobee
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Hmm, this article is deceptive. I think the biggest point people are missing is that you don't use ADSL bandwidth! You are just using the lines. You are actually using Vox bandwidth, so the quality is higher.
BUT, again on the same note what people are missing is the extra cost. When I priced the fishbone about a month ago, it was just under R10 000 for 50 GB of bandwidth (inclu vat). So if you are on a "lousy" 2Mbit diginet, that is UNCAPPED, generally no additional costs. But with the fishbone you must STILL buy your bandwidth.
The ones who mainly benefit from this are the guys out there spending hordes of cash on lines much more than 2Mbits. The saving they make will then be pumped into maintaining their bandwidth cap
BUT, again on the same note what people are missing is the extra cost. When I priced the fishbone about a month ago, it was just under R10 000 for 50 GB of bandwidth (inclu vat). So if you are on a "lousy" 2Mbit diginet, that is UNCAPPED, generally no additional costs. But with the fishbone you must STILL buy your bandwidth.
The ones who mainly benefit from this are the guys out there spending hordes of cash on lines much more than 2Mbits. The saving they make will then be pumped into maintaining their bandwidth cap
CeeBee
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"At around R 16 000 per month for a 20 Mbps connection using five ADSL connections, line bonding solutions provide a far better value proposition than traditional 2 Mbps E1 leased line services priced at around R 9 000 per line."
hehehe... we are clearly being scroowd over... our leased line is also about R9K per month... for 256Kbps 4:1 international!, 2Mbps my azz
Well its about R4K for the diginet line, and about R6K for the bandwidth.
But on leased line the bandwidth is unlimited, and unshaped... can the same be said for ADSL? Even 5 x 3Gb ADSL lines? And what about contention ratio on ADSL... about 50:1?
Doesnt really matter.... we still CANNOT get ADSL at the office, so fast leased line is only option, but azz-rape expensive!
hehehe... we are clearly being scroowd over... our leased line is also about R9K per month... for 256Kbps 4:1 international!, 2Mbps my azz
Well its about R4K for the diginet line, and about R6K for the bandwidth.
But on leased line the bandwidth is unlimited, and unshaped... can the same be said for ADSL? Even 5 x 3Gb ADSL lines? And what about contention ratio on ADSL... about 50:1?
Doesnt really matter.... we still CANNOT get ADSL at the office, so fast leased line is only option, but azz-rape expensive!
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Pity you cannot get a dedicated Wireless Link (from your office to a remote site) that can get ADSL (ie get 512k/s or 1Mb/s uncapped reduce Diginet to 128K/s. What diginet package are you running ? Sounds like the old Silver package, man that is high.
CeeBee
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yea, I think we're still on 'silver'.... got quotes on upping the speed to 512kbps, but that pushed price up to way over R15K per month 
Thats way too much for us to make sense. We part of global group, so need international (head office in France, incl mail server, so most our traffic is international), and about 60-100Gb per month usage.
If we can't get at least 1Mbps (to at least be able to do video conf too) then the extra cost not worth it... can't really do more, just same, a bit faster.
Of course they always LOL when we talk price vs speed.... they get 8Mbps line for cheap cheap.
Because of our location, sort of in a 'valley' on estate, theres no line of sight to nearest good tower (most likely Lanseria airport).
Using pointing antenna on wh roof, I do get good HSDPA VC and MTN (and good speeds) as connection for directors (and me!) but can become too pricey to open it too all the users.
Thats way too much for us to make sense. We part of global group, so need international (head office in France, incl mail server, so most our traffic is international), and about 60-100Gb per month usage.
If we can't get at least 1Mbps (to at least be able to do video conf too) then the extra cost not worth it... can't really do more, just same, a bit faster.
Of course they always LOL when we talk price vs speed.... they get 8Mbps line for cheap cheap.
Because of our location, sort of in a 'valley' on estate, theres no line of sight to nearest good tower (most likely Lanseria airport).
Using pointing antenna on wh roof, I do get good HSDPA VC and MTN (and good speeds) as connection for directors (and me!) but can become too pricey to open it too all the users.
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Pity you cannot approach a WISP to provide you with a dedicated DSL connections (not shared)at his site and a Point to Point wireless link
to your company.
Download Netstumbler & install a PCMCIA Wifi card on your laptop and do a quick war drive around your area and the Lanseria Tower to pick up some well known SSID ie WISP's not local Wifi Hotspots. Maybe Google the SSID to see how they could belong too.
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