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Yo, Please will someone in the know give me some clarity on this.
So My ADSL line is connected to the network via my isp say with a 30gig cap
This cap is just a storage facility with my isp( before the data gets to me)
what determines how this data gets to me is the size of the pipe say 384kpbs
What other factors influence the speed at which the data goes down the pipe is there a cap on this as well( not advertised) IOW. the first 2meg comes flying through at max speed and after that it trickles through until you have all the data from your isp storage
Cant get my head around this, what is the point of having huge isp caps if at some point the pipe is closing, slowing everything down
what are the data flow caps down the pipe isnt this what counts
Please correct me if ive got this wrong
 
wow AIT, have you done a course on writing confusing texts? Sorry!

I don't understand the part "This cap is just a storage facility with my isp".

If I understand your question correctly, which I doubt, then the answer is that line speed is influenced by the contention ratio, the quality of the line and the source of the data (the remote server). If you get 384 kbps line, then in theory this is the speed you should be getting (maybe few % less) provided the server you downloading from can provide that speed, or else you downloading multiple things simultaneously from fast enough servers.

On the slowest 192 kbps ADSL line you can download about 60GB for a month, so having 30GB means that you can download half speed 24x7, which is more than feasible. So there is a point of having higher cap as long as you actually need it
 
just one more thing - the 3GB is not emforced or counted or managed by any ISP at all. Its done my telkom. Your traffic doesnt go via your isp. It stays on the adsl network. The only reason for the connectivity is to validate youre logon via a radius server, and for you to get to additional services your isp provides, like web hosting and emial.

The are some isp's that proxy your traffic onto their network, but you still run on the adsl network from your house to their gateway.

Another thing - your first sentence should read "connected to my ISP via telkom adsl" and not the other way round.
 
So are you saying that i will download at what ever my line can handle speed wise until i reach the 30 gig cap(provided buy isp) or is there some other factor related to the line which controlls the speed. I was told that telkom sets the caps and that a 30 gig account with an isp is just like a resevoir as they are connected with a bigger pipe than i am, all too confusing!
 
Obilix
So is whatever I download served to me via my isp server
Just trying to picture whos who in the chain
 
AlT, yes, you will get in most cases almost the full speed of your line until reaching the 30GB cap or whatever other cap you choose!
 
Hmmm, hence the confusion I have been told otherwise, the info i got was that telkom have there own caps that we might not necesary know of and once you reach that your speed will change, eg. like the first 3 gig of the 30 gig will come through at full speed and after that it will be slower
 
AIT - the big slowdown after 2/3GB as imposed by teklom currently does not happen.
You download/upload at your line's maximum speed until you hit the cap, then, depending on what your ISP does, your line is either dead, or you may only surf locally.

HOWEVER :: There is a change coming in beginning August imposed by Teklom. The details of which seem to lead to speculation that Teklom will begin to overrule the ISP's throughput, but this is pure speculation.

Basically, you buy a line from teklom.
Available lines are:
192, 384 and 512, and soon 1MB.

Then - Choose your ISP...

On a teklom ISP account, you get either:
2GB package = 2GB at 384 max speed, when 2GB is done, you have no access.
3GB package = 3GB at 512 max speed, when 3GB is done, you have full high speed access to local sites, incredibly slow and useless access to international sites.
4GB package = 4GB at 512 max speed, when 4GB is done, you have no access.

On a Access ISP Account, you get [Methinks]:
30 GB package = 30GB at unspecified max speed, when 30GB is done, you have full high speed access to local sites, incredibly slow and useless access to international sites.
20 GB package = 20GB at unspecified max speed, when 20GB is done, you have full high speed access to local sites, incredibly slow and useless access to international sites.
look up the rest yourself ...
 
I don't know who told you that, but probably is somebody that just wanted to look smart and knowledgeable ... but he/she isn't ... I never heard of such ridiculous thing, and I guess no one else had either! So the answer is no, there are no hidden caps! You get 30GB at full speed and that is it, if you need more you buy another account.
 
Thanks Dude I am pasting an email from my source of info tell me what you think
""Basically what it means is telkom is the pipe and for 2 megs of data a month the pipe will run at the bandwidth that you have purchased. When this data load of 2 megs has been down that pipe in any given month the pipe will shrink down to normal dialup speeds for the rest of the month.
Axxess has allowed you to receive up to a maximum of 10 megs a month but the delivery speed is a separate deal with telkom""

maybe im just getting it wrong
 
I think, just maybe, the source was confusing his facts with the capping of international.
You know, after 3gig (assuming thats your cap size) you shunted onto the slower line which is really slow. This is true regardless of isp and is enforced by telkom, but only if you choose that size cap. You could get alot more if you wanted.
 
AlT said:
Thanks Dude I am pasting an email from my source of info tell me what you think
""Basically what it means is telkom is the pipe and for 2 megs of data a month the pipe will run at the bandwidth that you have purchased. When this data load of 2 megs has been down that pipe in any given month the pipe will shrink down to normal dialup speeds for the rest of the month.
Axxess has allowed you to receive up to a maximum of 10 megs a month but the delivery speed is a separate deal with telkom""

maybe im just getting it wrong
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Kick your source in the nuts
 
Sorry just read this again

AlT said:
""Basically what it means is telkom is the pipe and for 2 megs of data a month...
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Kept seeing it as 2 gigs, this is clearly not true, and you'd be hearing a helluva noise if people were paying R600+ per month for a really fast 2 megs and the rest was the same as dialup
 
AlT said:
Yo, Please will someone in the know give me some clarity on this.
So My ADSL line is connected to the network via my isp say with a 30gig cap
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Your adsl is connected to the SAIX network - your isp is pretty much uninvolved
AlT said:
This cap is just a storage facility with my isp( before the data gets to me)
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The 30gb capping is the total amount of data you can transfer, up and down, for the month before the line is restricted. After you've exceeded the cap international will be pretty much useless but local will be untouched. This could change in August
AlT said:
what determines how this data gets to me is the size of the pipe say 384kpbs
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pretty close! The 384/128 lines are your max upload and download speeds
AlT said:
What other factors influence the speed at which the data goes down the pipe is there a cap on this as well( not advertised) IOW. the first 2meg comes flying through at max speed and after that it trickles through until you have all the data from your isp storage
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sounds like your info came from someone overseas. Some isp's, especially in the states operate a fair usage policy where the first x amount of data comes flying down but after that amount they determine that you are 'abusing' the system and temporarily slow things down after a while it is reset to full speed. This doesnt happen here in SA - yet.
 
Now why would you want to go and give Telkom more ideas like that Bwana V.2.
Can see the news for a launch already.
"After extensive research Telkom has implemented a system to control the bandwidth hogs ......"
 
AlT said:
Thanks Dude I am pasting an email from my source of info tell me what you think
""Basically what it means is telkom is the pipe and for 2 megs of data a month the pipe will run at the bandwidth that you have purchased. When this data load of 2 megs has been down that pipe in any given month the pipe will shrink down to normal dialup speeds for the rest of the month.
Axxess has allowed you to receive up to a maximum of 10 megs a month but the delivery speed is a separate deal with telkom""

maybe im just getting it wrong
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your source apparently has no idea what he/she is talking about so disregard it completely!!!

Tell your source to go and get some education before making such non-sense statements!
 
billybobwoolmer said:
Now why would you want to go and give Telkom more ideas like that Bwana V.2.
Can see the news for a launch already.
"After extensive research Telkom has implemented a system to control the bandwidth hogs ......"
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I doubt its not something they havent considered. In fact they probably rejected it because it doesnt screw the customer enough.
 
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