ADSL to DSL help

[Plus-X]

Hope this goes here, sorry if it doesn't </newbie>

Okay I don't know that much about ADSL, so plz don't shoot me. I'm a student at a certain universtity and our IT dept wants to offer a DSL connection through them for internet access to students. Yes I know it's different from an ADSL, but not altogether, essentially it's a connection straight to their switchboard, with no voice capability, I don't really know the technical stuff.

Anyway I was talking to the systems manager in the IT dept and she said that the problem is that telkom doesn't want to install these lines, for obvious reasons as they get no or greatly reduced revenue from them. What telkom wanted to do is install the lines, and then bill the university, and anyone who knows telkom and large entities like universities knows what a nightmare it is for them to stop charging once lines have been disconnected, etc...

Anyway, that's just some probably confusing background, but what the real issue that she wants to know is whether it is possible to get telkom to install a line, having them as the ISP, and then cancel your subscription and then use that line to make a DSL connection to the university, thus kicking telkom square in the nuts.

Anyone?

 

[alchamy]

Not an expert either but:

Most likely not, they would disconnect the line from the port at the exchange.

 

[Plus-X]

If they did that then, theoretically, one could get it reconnected to the university switchboard? Not sure if that would run into the same problem with telkom then charging the university tho *brain melts*

Thank you

 

[stoke]

Somebody correct me if i'm wrong, but Telkom will install lines to their exchange where their DSLAM sits. There will be no way for you to then use the same lines to connect to your switchboard, as those lines connect to their exchange, and not your switchboard.

 

[Plus-X]

Ya I suspected it would be something along those lines, thanks

 

[bb_matt]

Anyway, that's just some probably confusing background, but what the real issue that she wants to know is whether it is possible to get telkom to install a line, having them as the ISP, and then cancel your subscription and then use that line to make a DSL connection to the university, thus kicking telkom square in the nuts.

I'm not sure what you mean here ?
Only Telkom has the capacity currently to offer the actual physical line you would use to gain access to the Internet as a whole via DSL. You can use any ISP you want to, but you need to pay Telkom a monthly fee for the line regardless of who your ISP is !
IOW, you can't kick them in the nuts, because otherwise, they would just disconnect your DSL line at the exchange = bye bye internet.

Now, if you actually refering to a local university Intranet, with no access to the Internet, that's an entirely different story and you wouldn't need to use any kind of DSL connection at all, you'd rather want to use some type of wireless network.

 

[Clipse]

Correct me if im wrong, but ADSL and switchboards dont go together anyways.. Switchboards work with multiple isdn links yes..

Ive never heard of anyone using adsl on a switchboard *scratches head*

Oh ok, now for help. No you cant have a direct adsl line to your Unies internet line. Best would be to setup a wireless link to wherever your bandwidth would be provided from and then leech it that way.

Cancellig out telkom from the start and monthly billing.

 

[Burny1]

Telkom lines

Hi there,

About 2 years ago telkom stoppped installing what they called outdoor extentions. This was basically a pair of copper wires that were bypassed at the exchange and went directly from point A to point B, but still in the same exchange area. Now when I say they stopped installing it, i mean they will not supply you with an outdoor extention if it doesn't terminate on the same premises. So in theory if the students accomodation was on campus then you would be able to ask telkom, or your switchboard supplier, to install outdoor extensions and then use those outdoor extensions for normal DSL connections because you disconnect the wires from the switchboard altogether. The problem is that the DSL modems are quite pricey and you may find that it is cheaper to just do a wireless network. Something that might also work would be to install an adsl line or 2 at the different hostels and then use wireless in the hostels to supply the internet connection or run cables. Obviously you will then set up a proxy server at the university to give you the international bandwidth.

Just for those who want to know why they stopped it - the official reason was that they were unable to maintain the old infrastructure - the real reason was that more and more companies would install these outdoor extensions to their branch offices or director's houses and did exactly what i explained at the top. This led to Telkom loosing money on the Diginet side because if you used diginet for the 768k that you would get out of the DSL connection it would cost you close to R 6600.00 per month as where and outdoor extension would have cost you R100.00 per month.

Regards

Burny

 

[alchamy]

Burny1, having read your post I think I just found a new way to hate Telkom, if that was possible. It would be the perfect alternative in areas where wifi is a problem.

EG I have 2 sites that I need to link, however there are just too many trees in the way the the signal gets scattered.