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dyanamo

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We have a nanny cross domestic who we know quite well and looks after our 8 month old daughter. She used to be our domestic coming in once a week to clean the house. She was good with my child so decided to take my child out of day care so she can be looked after at home and offered this opportunity to the domestic. She gladly accepted and was good for the first month and a half.

This last week we were left in the dark. She did not come in on Monday and phone was off so major dramas happened as everyone was in a panic. he nanny not being there would not normally be a problem as my mother in law lives quite close to us and she offered to take care of her in such a situation. But that Monday she couldnt as she had work to do herself. So we eventually get hold of the nanny and says she will come in the next morning.

Surprise Surprise she didnt show and again the phone was off. So I had to stay home to look after my child. Get hold of the nanny again and she is upset and says something is wrong but she will discuss it with us the next day when she comes. She didnt show and again the phone is off. Got hold of her again and its apparently because shes sick and will come in the next day (today). No show.

Now my question relates to the following: We made a agreement that if she couldnt come she would let us know so we can plan accordingly. Even if she doesnt have air time she can please call me and we would phone her back. She would normally get R100 a day with the ability to have anything from our kitchen. I know this seems little but she agreed on it as we couldnt afford more and its better for her to have a "full time" salary as opposed to a on off domestic job at random times.
So I want to dock her pay at R150 per day she missed as she didnt inform us and caused us extra money and stress. Am I allowed to do this? Im a reasonable guy and if she missed a couple days while informing us what the problem was and not promising to be there and not pitching I would have payed her in full. I still want to keep her as shes trustworthy with the things in the house and shes good with the baby but i want to show her this type of behavior is not tolerated by reducing her pay by said amount per day. No contracts are in existence at the moment. So do i have a right to dock her pay by R150 a day for not showing?
 
Offer her a choice of one solid punch in the mouth or you take some of her riches.
 
Seriously though, if you trust her with your baby and you're paying her R100 bucks a day I think one of the perks of her job is she gets to drop you once in a while. As long as she's not trying it on once a week. Just my opinion.

And no I doubt you can dock someones pay as a punitive measure.
 
Her not getting pay sure but Minusing pay good luck dont think thats right
 
Why do people not communicate honestly??? Would it kill her just to tell you the real reason?

How do you withhold R150 a day of her salary if she only earns R100 per day?
 
Why do people not communicate honestly??? Would it kill her just to tell you the real reason?

How do you withhold R150 a day of her salary if she only earns R100 per day?

Shes gets R2000 a month (20 days @ R100). So in essence will now only get R1400 if she starts working properly again.
 
you don't have a contract, sorry for you

and no you cannot dock pay, don't you watch the news, even government officials get suspended with full pay until the outcome of formal disciplinary action
 
Now my question relates to the following: We made a agreement that if she couldnt come she would let us know so we can plan accordingly. Even if she doesnt have air time she can please call me and we would phone her back. She would normally get R100 a day with the ability to have anything from our kitchen. I know this seems little but she agreed on it as we couldnt afford more and its better for her to have a "full time" salary as opposed to a on off domestic job at random times.
So I want to dock her pay at R150 per day she missed as she didnt inform us and caused us extra money and stress. Am I allowed to do this? Im a reasonable guy and if she missed a couple days while informing us what the problem was and not promising to be there and not pitching I would have payed her in full. I still want to keep her as shes trustworthy with the things in the house and shes good with the baby but i want to show her this type of behavior is not tolerated by reducing her pay by said amount per day. No contracts are in existence at the moment. So do i have a right to dock her pay by R150 a day for not showing?

**** happens in peoples lives and things go wrong. You pay her chicken feed to look after your precious and now you want to get nasty and take R150/day from her. Sit down and think about this. I know work is work but schite does happen and people are not always keen to phone in and discuss it.

Do what you have to and makes you feel happy. To me you sound like a d**s.
 
**** happens in peoples lives and things go wrong. You pay her chicken feed to look after your precious and now you want to get nasty and take R150/day from her. Sit down and think about this. I know work is work but schite does happen and people are not always keen to phone in and discuss it.

Do what you have to and makes you feel happy. To me you sound like a d**s.

How do you come to me being a d**s? I know schite does happen but if you able to as she clearly was she can inform us that she cant come in instead of PROMISING us she would. I know its not a lot but its all we could afford and shes more than happy with it as its much more than what she would normally get a month plus food and gifts for her own children. Better to have chicken feed and not starve than have no food at all? We can send my child to a daycare at R850 a month but we prefer for her to have a 1 on 1 relationship. We have a close relationship with the nanny and want to keep her but this ****e from her side has got to stop and rather nip it at the bud.

Apparently after contacting her again today she is hurt so I think she got beat up over the last weekend. This is fine as a excuse and I feel sorry for her but for heaven sakes let us know you cant come in so we can make alternative arrangements. If she or a a family member like her mom (we have her moms number aswell) let us know that shes unable to come thats cool with me. I can plan accordingly.
 
the same terms that the law applies to you at your company applies to her.

She can have a certain number of sick days, family responsibility....

Go look up how that works, if you're not familiar with it. You may ask for a sick note from a doc or it comes off annual.

Can't remember all the points as i read it a while ago. How/when she must let you know is also listed there. Show that to her, she might be more willing to comply.
 
Get a contract and register her for uif ASAP if she is full time. You dock her pay and she don't like it, she will have your arse in Ccma so fast you won't know what hit you. And she will win!

Maybe when she gets back, just tell her you understand things happen but to please next time, let you know blah blah so you can plan accordingly. Hope it works out, trust is hard to find these days.
 
no work no pay unless she can provide you with a sick note... you can deduct the money as unpaid leave & give her a warning as well...next time she will take you seriously.

this is not only affecting her, but its affecting you & YOUR work as well...which inturn pays her salary.
 
Same happened to us about a year and halfd ago. Nanny also absconded all the time and left us stressed out to the max. She had a pig of a husband and got assualted regularly. After the last time she absconded we just fired her...simple as that. Once trust re. your baby has been breached you cannot trust that nanny again.
 
ponder - what is going on in your life? :/

I read the Apple forum where you lashed and apologised as well?

**** happens in peoples lives and things go wrong. You pay her chicken feed to look after your precious and now you want to get nasty and take R150/day from her. Sit down and think about this. I know work is work but schite does happen and people are not always keen to phone in and discuss it.

Do what you have to and makes you feel happy. To me you sound like a d**s.

Sorry, I'm wrong and out of line here.

Anyway - I fully understand that's what you can afford. You made the offer - and the accepted.

I'd also be extremely pissed off in the same situation, because the least you can do it let your employer know to make alternate arrangement. Most companies are the same - whether you earn R1,000.00 or R10,000.00pm, you need to let your employer know. I'd be fired if I went AWOL for a week ...

That said, docking pay is probably a bad idea and may cause issues in future. Just don't pay her for those days - and warn her if it happens again you'll need to find someone else you can rely on.

some advice was getting a new nanny - but it's not that easy to simply trust anyone with your 8 months old child.
 
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