Advice please on a build

[ViciousClone]

Hi all

so one of my computers died,well the gf's pc.

So i'm going to place a claim soon and think i'll be getting a pc in the 15k range without a gpu.

the plan here is to take the upgrade and place my gpu in it and give her my i7 rig.

OK! so i'm looking at ryzen 1700x,can anyone help me with a complete build(ssd,no hdd,cpu,board,16gb ddr4,case,powersupply ect.)

cause i'm not sure if the X version works with auto overclocking on the B350 series....

thanks!

 

[ponder]

Wait for benchmarks before you pull the trigger.

 

[ViciousClone]

Wait for benchmarks before you pull the trigger.

i want RYZENN!!! haha

yeah true,this isn't untill next week anyway so still just browsing,

question still is,if i get the 1700x will it auto overclock on a B series board ,i mean i don't need all those extra ports on a X model :/

 

[Neoprod]

Wait for benchmarks before you pull the trigger.

that plus post pre-order pricing. There's a possibility the demand will exceed supply which might make some retailers price-gouge. Some online stores overseas have already sold all their pre-order chips.

 

[ViciousClone]

that plus post pre-order pricing. There's a possibility the demand will exceed supply which might make some retailers price-gouge. Some online stores overseas have already sold all their pre-order chips.

So maybe see a price drop when stocks come in local?

 

[Neoprod]

i want RYZENN!!! haha

yeah true,this isn't untill next week anyway so still just browsing,

question still is,if i get the 1700x will it auto overclock on a B series board ,i mean i don't need all those extra ports on a X model :/

yes - overclocking is supported on the B350.

 

[Neoprod]

So maybe see a price drop when stocks come in local?

I dunno, man...this is the most interested people have been in a CPU launch in a long time. I don't know how that buzz translates in the real world but maybe expect some price volatility and maybe even back ordering \ longer shipping times during the first few months.

 

[ViciousClone]

I dunno, man...this is the most interested people have been in a CPU launch in a long time. I don't know how that buzz translates in the real world but maybe expect some price volatility and maybe even back ordering \ longer shipping times during the first few months.

I get you

then again they did announce a hard launch meaning mass stock world wide? probably just wait and see ?

 

[Neoprod]

I get you

then again they did announce a hard launch meaning mass stock world wide? probably just wait and see ?

yeah. At the same time, the R5 and R3 chips are not significantly different from the R7 but they're only being launched in Q2 and Q3. Sounds a lot like AMD are using all the production capacity they can muster to manufacture the higher margin parts first. Which makes business sense but does make you question whether they have all the capacity they need.

Anyway, enough speculation - here's a build I did from messing around on Wootware just now. That Asrock board interests me...it's highly-specced when compared to other B350 boards and quite affordable at the same time...just like Ryzen



You can probably use a lower wattage power supply (depending on what graphics card you have). The SSD and case could probably be scaled back a bit but the total cost is in the ballpark you mentioned.

 

[Ancalagon]

yeah. At the same time, the R5 and R3 chips are not significantly different from the R7 but they're only being launched in Q2 and Q3. Sounds a lot like AMD are using all the production capacity they can muster to manufacture the higher margin parts first. Which makes business sense but does make you question whether they have all the capacity they need.

Anyway, enough speculation - here's a build I did from messing around on Wootware just now. That Asrock board interests me...it's highly-specced when compared to other B350 boards and quite affordable at the same time...just like Ryzen

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You can probably use a lower wattage power supply (depending on what graphics card you have). The SSD and case could probably be scaled back a bit but the total cost is in the ballpark you mentioned.

First, remember to get a CPU cooler, since the Ryzen model you selected doesn't come with one.

Second, get 2 x 8GB memory rather than 4 x 4GB memory. Ryzen uses dual channel only, not quad channel, and that would allow you to expand later (if you ever needed to).

 

[ViciousClone]

First, remember to get a CPU cooler, since the Ryzen model you selected doesn't come with one.

Second, get 2 x 8GB memory rather than 4 x 4GB memory. Ryzen uses dual channel only, not quad channel, and that would allow you to expand later (if you ever needed to).

Saw this as well,

So ya placed a cooler and scaled the 500gb ssd to 120gb as i have a 250gb evo already. and boom in my budget.now i'll wait untill it releases before making decision

came up with this and color schemes ,what do you all think

 

[Neoprod]

First, remember to get a CPU cooler, since the Ryzen model you selected doesn't come with one.

Second, get 2 x 8GB memory rather than 4 x 4GB memory. Ryzen uses dual channel only, not quad channel, and that would allow you to expand later (if you ever needed to).

Well-spotted.

 

[Chevron]

Saw this as well,

So ya placed a cooler and scaled the 500gb ssd to 120gb as i have a 250gb evo already. and boom in my budget.now i'll wait untill it releases before making decision

came up with this and color schemes ,what do you all think

Why get 2400mhz RAM when for R10 more you can get 2666mhz:
http://www.wootware.co.za/g-skill-f...666mhz-ddr4-cl15-1-2v-red-desktop-memory.html

Or for R200 more get 3200mhz?
http://www.wootware.co.za/g-skill-f...b-3200mhz-ddr4-cl16-1-35v-desktop-memory.html
http://www.wootware.co.za/g-skill-f...mhz-ddr4-cl16-1-35v-black-desktop-memory.html

 

[Neoprod]

^, that specific motherboard tops out at 2666mhz...there aren't any real reviews out yet so don't know if that might be higher with some fiddling.

Anyway, higher memory bandwidth is nice for APU's when you're using the on-board graphics but desktops with discrete graphics cards generally do better with lower latency - RAM doesn't play much of a role in total system performance anymore. Nice for benchmarkers, not so much for realworld use.

 

[ponder]

I have no idea how the different MB chipsets compare but have a look at the power phases they provide, dunno if they are all the same and that might just affect OCing.

 

[Chevron]

^, that specific motherboard tops out at 2666mhz...there aren't any real reviews out yet so don't know if that might be higher with some fiddling.

Anyway, higher memory bandwidth is nice for APU's when you're using the on-board graphics but desktops with discrete graphics cards generally do better with lower latency - RAM doesn't play much of a role in total system performance anymore. Nice for benchmarkers, not so much for realworld use.

Have a look at some of the benchmarking videos on Digital Foundry. You'll be shocked how much difference memory bandwidth can make. 5-10 fps if you have a high end card.