Thanks Angelo for your response. There was no victory over apartheid - there was agreement by all south africans to do away with a sick system that was unworkable and demeaning.
The agreement was reached after years of struggle and blood shedding, the Apartheid government was basically left with little choice but to abolish the system. They didn't just wake up one day and decided to have mercy on Black people, it took years of suffering and compromise hence even today (9th August) the victory is being celebrated by remembering one of the many significant days in the struggle. Yes it was a victory and it will continue to be celebrated and to an extent I can understand why you don't see it as one because you were not a victim of the system but a beneficiary.
All those same south africans are living and hoping for a better country - yes it is better in so many ways - but it is also worse in so many others. All I want is caring and empathy and sympathy for all the struggling masses - same as I wanted then - but its not happening. 2 hours spent on some stupid speech is 2 hours spent not caring for this country - and it surely needs care.
Most of the above I didn't even bother to read because it's the white South African's rhetoric that's becoming so familiar and pathetic, all of a sudden you are all good samaritans who want the best for the "people" but for your information we are aware that this is now the new front you use to show your disapproval for a Black Government since it's no longer Politically correct to just come out and directly voice your prejudice. The DA uses the same line. If you really cared for the people you would be mentioning the many improvements that this Government has introduced in their lives not just what has not been done.
In your posts - and the posts of our great leader Mbeki - is a total ignoring of the fact that any victory came from all the people of SA - and until all the people are acknowledged black, white, green or pink - then this gub is as guilty as the last. I am getting to the point where I equate Thabo's speeches to PW's - not a good place to be - and YOU are to blame. So - please drop the rhetoric (the Great Victory over Apartheid won by the black people) - What about the coloured people and the white people who financed this fiasco in this first place.
Can you show me a speech in which any ANC leader excluded other races from the annual freedom celebrations? How you can compare Thabo Mbeki with PW just shows your level of madness and disgruntlement.
I will continue to complain until I'm blue in the face
Good luck, we'll be here to witness the fun.
Do you really think we live in a bubble called SA - where the rhetoric goes unnoticed?
Of course not, that's why the FIFA President forgot about his standing and expressed his disgust at those White South Africans opposing a World Cup in South Africa.
So - let's not rename the whole country (except the absolute worst - and JB international isn't one) - and end up with a country none know, none care and none can find their way around. Cape Town, Jo'burg - never heard of them... but that's strange - 'cause here they are on my map. Pity. Let's go to Mallorca instead.
Yes the renaming has only just begun, soon the names in this country will reflect that it's in Africa. You really are a shallow mind if you think the names in our country should be determined by what the outside world wants. Besides Limpopo province has had unprecedented growth in tourism since shedding tags like Northern Transvaal, Northern Province, Pietersburg etc.
What has this government done in 12 years?
Again I wouldn't waste my time with this, the people are way better off than before and they will aknowledge this in the next national elections.
You never answered the original question - is your rhetoric the Nelson Mandela message - or is he just a wimp? I'll say - no it isn't the Nelson Mandela message - now who is the greater statesman and human being - Nelson or Thabo - with his great victory?
What is this "Nelson Mandela message"?
The Boeremag and other organisations have expressed their frustration at the new South Africa and your posts have been nothing more than that, an expression of vent and frustration at having a transforming country and I really pity you because the more the country transforms and integrates the worse life will feel for people like you. So next time you bother posting long and winding posts just remember that your patronising attitude fools nobody. There's no place for Apartheid denialists like you in today's South Africa.
