Afrihost / SADV cancellation

infscrtyrisk

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I've had enough of Afrihost ***** service and want to cancel today and swing to Cool Ideas. No drama and fuss, I just want a new ISP today. I'll pay them for the next two months (I've been paying them for ***** service for the past few months anyway).

So I call their support line (apparently its open Sat-Sun 09:00-15:00). Get told to wait, caller #4 in queue. 6 minutes later, I get told that I am caller #21 in queue.

What's up -- everyone cancelling with Afrihost, or is their call queuing system as ***** as their ISP service?
 
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Totempole

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Once you've managed to cancel, make sure you're 100% clear on the terms and conditions of your signup agreement.

Don't just let them bulldoze you with an excessive cancellation charge.

When and how you signed up plays a very sigificant role in how much you owe them for cancelling.

Because of this, it seems that many of the Afrihost Support Staff are not particularly well-informed with regard to their own T's & C's.

If you're patient enough, you'll eventually get hold of someone in the Afrihost Team who's willing to assist you.
 
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infscrtyrisk

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Once you've managed to cancel, make sure you're 100% clear on the terms and conditions of your signup agreement.

Don't just let them bulldoze you with an excessive cancellation charge.

When and how you signed up plays a very sigificant role in how much you owe them for cancelling.

Because of this, it seems that many of the Afrihost Support Staff are not particularly well-informed with regard to their own T's & C's.

If you're patient enough, you'll eventually get hold of someone in the Afrihost Team who's willing to assist you.

Thank you, I managed managed to migrate the SADV fibre to Cool Ideas. I haven't yet seen my afrihost bill, but will update this thread once I do. In the interim,this note to all who need to swing their fiber to a better provider:

1. It's not as easy as swinging ADSL/VDSL ISP providers. The incumbent ISP is stifled through the contractual processes that the fiber provider has with them, as well as the contractual processes that the old ISP has with the fiber provider. This is Africa (TIA), so be flexible and be willing to give and take.
2. The outgoing ISP is probably going to be vindictive. During the process, my own fiber connection simply disappeared form the "clientzone", and displayed a message "You have exceeded your cap", despite the many gigs that I had left for the month, and those that were carried over from previous months.
3. Remember that your outgoing ISP will not be happy with your decision to move. Equally important is to remember your reasons for wanting to move in the first place. If you have made decision to move, them move, move quickly and decisively, do not allow them to undermine your decision with (false) promises.
4. Make sure that you have alternatives, such as a temporary connection of some sort, like a 3G dongle charged with 10-30 gigs, enough to tide you over during the Days of Drama.
4. During the process: Follow up with your old ISP, follow up with your fiber provider, follow up with the incumbent ISP. Be prepared to both make and take many, many phonecalls, talk to people who lie to you, and people who do not care. Fortunately there are some who do, they make it worthwhile and bearable :)
5. I repeat, this is Africa, be flexible, be willing to give and take (within reason of course). Otherwise it will break you. The populace does not take kindly to competition.

I am currently very happy with my new ISP. :):):)

Cool people who assisted in making this happen:
  • Damien from Cool Ideas: Thank you sir, for your enthusiasm and going the extra mile in delivering service, especially over a weekend, I really appreciate it;
  • Nthabiseng from SADV: Despite some serious procedural challenges, and her team leaders experiencing personal crisis, she under-promised and over-delivered. Many thanks to her for her management of my expectations, and her organisations' subsequent delivery. She really went the extra mile, and I truly appreciate it.
  • Samantha from Cool Ideas: Many thanks for your efforts!
  • Many others that I may have engaged with.

The team above (and some perhaps not mentioned) made it happen over a weekend (cancellation started Saturday morning, new service started the following Tuesday afternoon (a few hours ago)). That makes it roughly 3 days.
 

CUDlybunny

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Once you've managed to cancel, make sure you're 100% clear on the terms and conditions of your signup agreement.

Don't just let them bulldoze you with an excessive cancellation charge.

When and how you signed up plays a very sigificant role in how much you owe them for cancelling.

Because of this, it seems that many of the Afrihost Support Staff are not particularly well-informed with regard to their own T's & C's.

If you're patient enough, you'll eventually get hold of someone in the Afrihost Team who's willing to assist you.

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I'm getting nowhere talking to afrihost about their T&cs, they're telling me to contact their legal team now so it seems they're purposefully avoiding answering my queries and are deflecting my questions, they say i owe whats left of the R4000 credit (R3500) if I cancel my fibre within 18 months.

Their T&c say this is true for sign ups prior to October 2017. Then says for post October signups you're liable for penalties of R999 if cancelling within 6 months. I signed up Jan, 2018.




10. Connect with Afrihost and Save up to R4000 Offer

10.1
As of 1 February 2017 and until 7 April 2017, Afrihost is offering a One-Time credit for all clients towards costs incurred when signing up for Fibre Broadband with Afrihost. As of 20 February 2017 and until 30 November 2017 this offer will be available to all signups via the afrihost website and other selected channels. From 31 May 2017 and until further notice this promotion will also be active through certain direct marketing channels and clients will need to sign up via the aforementioned direct marketing channels to be eligible for the offer.

10.2
The overall amount of up to R4000 can be used to offset installation and hardware costs should a user sign up for a new Fibre connection, or alternatively should a user wish to change ISPs, we'll credit their Afrihost account to re-imburse them for costs leveraged by their previous ISPs to make the switch to Afrihost.

10.3
Applicable to Vumatel signups on or after 06 March 2018 – The overall amount of up to R4000 does NOT cover the Installation Fee. The Installation Fee is directly payable to Vumatel.

10.4
It is important to note that R4000 is the overall maximum amount that Afrihost will issue as a credit to users regardless of how it is achieved.

10.5
If users sign up for a new connection, the savings will automatically apply on checkout.

10.6
If a user is migrating from another ISP, we'll automatically zero-rate migration fees associated with the last-mile provider (i.e. Vumatel, MetroFibre etc.) and then credit their Afrihost account for the termination costs charged by their previous ISP (up to the remaining balance of the R4000 maximum) when they submit a copy of the termination settlement to us.

10.7
This offer is available once-off, to one legal entity per address. Should ownership of an address change, the new occupant would become eligible for the offer. Should a legal entity wish to add an additional connection, or cancel and sign up again - this offer will not apply.

10.8
Applicable to signups before 05 October 2017 - Should a user cancel their connection with us before 18 months of service, they will be charged a pro-rated amount to recover the initial offer extended. What this means is, for example, if a user receives an overall credit of R3600 on signup, and cancels after 8 months, that they will be charged an amount pro-rata for the remaining 10 months – in the case of this example that would equate to R2000. This is to cover the capital outlay incurred by Afrihost to provision infrastructure and hardware required in facilitating the fibre connection to users.

10.9
Applicable to signups on or after 05 October 2017 - Should a user cancel their Afrihost Fibre less than 6 months from installation, or their account falls into arrears, they will be charged a cancellation fee of R999.

10.10
We will not credit users, when migrating ISPs, for hardware acquired independently or that is not stated as part of the
termination settlement from their previous ISP.

10.11
If a user is signing up via one of our Fibre Partner’s websites, they will need to submit substantiating documentation for installation and other costs via the Afrihost ClientZone in order for us to credit their Afrihost account for these costs.


 
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