Afrikaans schools, discriminatory?

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I think a debate is needed regarding schools in South Africa whose medium of instruction is Afrikaans.

Isn't it time for schools whose medium of instruction is Afrikaans to change it to English? We live in a racially divided country already and having schools that still have a medium of instruction in Afrikaans definitely excludes people/children of other race groups. Blacks and Indians will definitely view Afrikaans schools as a sign that they are not wanted, that they must go to other schools. In my view, Afrikaans schools are nothing more than a way to keep people from other race groups away who otherwise don't speak Afrikaans.

People might say that the Education Department allows schools to teach in Afrikaans and therefore those schools are not discriminating. People might also say that if someone wants a school with English as a medium of instruction, then they must go to wherever they came from and find a school that offers English as a medium of instruction. All those reasons might be valid, but at the same time it doesn't do much to cover the fact that Afrikaans schools' may aim in this day and age is to keep away certain people from certain race groups.

Something else that bothers me a bit is that even model C high schools whose medium of instruction is English, make it compulsory for all students to take both English and Afrikaans from Grade 10, why is that? Why can't the only language that is compulsory be English? Why Afrikaans? That is what happened to me while attending a model C high school. I was "forced" to take Afrikaans in addition to English. The last time I uttered a word in Afrikaans was the year I matriculated, so what is the use of being taught Afrikaans if one will not use it later in life?

Most black students would gladly choose Afrikaans over Zulu/Sotho because it's easy to pass Afrikaans, but I think the time has come for the education department to change their policy of making students have 2 languages, students must be given the option of doing one language subject, i.e. English. If students want to do more than one language subject then they can choose Afrikaans if they wish. I am against students being "forced" to take Afrikaans, I believe in freedom of choice.

Mind you, this is not an attack on the Afrikaans language, culture, its people and history. I merely want a debate about this. I think we should also watch our emotions, logical debates usually work. I'm also looking to be educated if I don't know something regarding issues I raised above.
 
I don't see why the medium should be changed, most people find it easier to study in their native language. Just because there are very few schools that use one of the other official languages as medium doesn't mean that Afrikaans should be removed.

I think having another language in addition to English is a good system. The other language does not need to be Afrikaans though.

Also, in what way is it discriminatory to have an Afrikaans school? They don't prevent anyone else from having a school in their native language?
 
Private schools should be allowed to do as they wish, whether it be Afrikaans, Arabic, Italian, German etc of which there are many in SA.

Model C and public schools should stick with the majority mother tongue based on demographics of their area. It should not be English or gtfo as this would hamper education in underprivileged areas and the same should apply to all schools.

Regarding compulsory languages, it should be English as compulsory and any of our official languages as second compulsory language, even if the school operates predominantly in another language...
 
Perhaps you would like Zulu and Xhosa language schools banned as well. We have 11 official languages. You should be able to learn in your own tongue although I would say that you should be forced to have English somewhere in there for practical reasons.

Beyond that there is no reason that anybody of any race should be allowed into a school if it is their mother tongue.

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This was debated heavily a few years ago, it comes down to the parent governing body, they have the right to decide on the language policy of the school, obviously they have to take into account the area it is in.

Afrikaans is a fully developed scientific and academic language and I see no reason why those schools should change because someone 'cannot speak the language'. If you can't speak Afrikaans go to an English school - there are more english schools in this countries they aren't hard to find. If they change the schools to English only, most Afrikaans teachers will probably just leave the education system and last time I checked the Afrikaans schools' performances are of the best in the country.
 
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I believe every child should be taught in their home language.
 
Afrikaans is a fully developed scientific and academic language and I see no reason why those schools should change because someone 'cannot speak the language'. If you can't speak Afrikaans go to an English school - there are more english schools in this countries they aren't hard to find. Seriously.

True, AFAIK most African languages do not have terminology for scientific terms. Correct me if I'm wrong.
 
True, AFAIK most African languages do not have terminology for scientific terms. Correct me if I'm wrong.

I'm not so sure, I thought Zulu made some significant progress in the last few years, there are even a few newspapers going around and books they are now published. Which is a good thing, the bad thing is that I might have to learn Zulu soon :P
 
I believe every child should be taught in their home language.

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This thread was created for trolling and pissing certain people off. I want my kids one day to be taught in my language. It is fair. There are schools serving all demographics in this country. You can't only focus on one language.
 
I'm not so sure, I thought Zulu made some significant progress in the last few years, there are even a few newspapers going around and books they are now published. Which is a good thing, the bad thing is that I might have to learn Zulu soon :P

This is quite interesting, its great to see these languages evolve to accomodate the scientific world.
 
I went to a Afrikaans school...naturaly...you would be hard pressed to find a english medium school in the Karoo. English was compulsory though and if you fail English...or Afrikaans for that matter...you fail your year...fiinished and klaar. We had coloured kids and black kids in our school post 94 and they were all Afrikaans speaking anyway....but could hardly speak a world of English. Would those black and colourd kids now not be discrimated against if they are not taught in Afrikaans which is their mother tongue? Afrikaans is spoken by many racial groups...not just whites.

We had a boy that came to our school that was English...but his parents knew full well that ours is a Afrikaans medium school. He adapted and did well. No one is forcing anyone to attend Afrikaans schools. If you are not Afrikaans then dont attend one. In the metro's there are loads of choices I would assume? Majority of which I would say is English anyway not so? In the platteland where Afrikaans is widely spoken, the schools tend to be Afrikaans.

When my sister went to UCT...she also knew full well that only English is used and that was her choice. So did I when I went to Cape Town to study.
 
I actually wouldn't mind taking a 3rd compulsory language at school. Iirc a province has to recognize 3 languages, why not just teach that?
 
I agree with the OP word for word. Everyone should have a 'freedom of choice' when it comes to language...

It's complete BS that you have to be forced to take Afrikaans.

I don't know know the percentages but I assume Afrikaans is spoken less than Zulu/Xhosa nationally.

I doubt things will change anytime soon unless the Government steps in.
 
I agree with the OP word for word. Everyone should have a 'freedom of choice' when it comes to language...

It's complete BS that you have to be forced to take Afrikaans.

I don't know know the percentages but I assume Afrikaans is spoken less than Zulu/Xhosa nationally.

I doubt things will change anytime soon unless the Government steps in.

I didn't know they still force people, it might come down to the availability of teachers for other languages?
 
I agree with the OP word for word. Everyone should have a 'freedom of choice' when it comes to language...

It's complete BS that you have to be forced to take Afrikaans.

I don't know know the percentages but I assume Afrikaans is spoken less than Zulu/Xhosa nationally.

I doubt things will change anytime soon unless the Government steps in.

I dont think the OP is talking about Afrikaans as a subject...but as instruction medium?
 
It would actually be discriminatory if Afrikaans schools were not present in communities where the majority of the community are primarily Afrikaans-speaking. Don't have any links handy, but recent studies have found that children obtain better academic results when educated in their mother tongue.

I went to an Afrikaans school and study at an English university. The option of going to Stellenbosch was on the table, but I chose not to.
 
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