AI Development general thread.

Might bight the bullet and upgrade my povo speak Claude sub to the $100 tier to have some of that sweet sweet Fable goodness. It's not a groundbreaking model BUT its really good at orchestrationl better than GPT-5.5 from my tests. Their harness though needs a bit of work ...
 
Might bight the bullet and upgrade my povo speak Claude sub to the $100 tier to have some of that sweet sweet Fable goodness. It's not a groundbreaking model BUT its really good at orchestrationl better than GPT-5.5 from my tests. Their harness though needs a bit of work ...
Orchestration in what manner? My GPT 5.5 performs perfectly.

$100 Claude is like $20 OpenAI.
 
I think they mean you have Fable as a master agent, then that spins up subagents with different models to do bits of work.
Bit of overkill to use a high level agent as a orchestrator. Orchestrator is effectively a router, sure use a high agent for review but the actual orchestration can easily be done by lower otherwise you burn a ton of tokens unnecessarily.
 
Bit of overkill to use a high level agent as a orchestrator. Orchestrator is effectively a router, sure use a high agent for review but the actual orchestration can easily be done by lower otherwise you burn a ton of tokens unnecessarily.

You need the most intelligent model as an Orchestrator. The aim is to pawn off work to cheaper models and it only reviews the output.

SA is a working example of not putting the most intelligent in charge :laugh:
 

You need the most intelligent model as an Orchestrator. The aim is to pawn off work to cheaper models and it only reviews the output.

SA is a working example of not putting the most intelligent in charge :laugh:
Nah, I would think of it more as like a project manager. So have a high level review agent but it can delegate the basic task handling to a lower agent which just assigns and moves the work around. If you have the high level as the central, you will burn tokens doing mundane. If you have one that handles interactions but high level reviews and signs off, less burn. A orchestrator is just that, its job is to coordinate inputs and outputs, not necessarily work on the actual task.
 
Yeah, anyone who does that needs a frontal lobotomy.
Saves Fable tokens tbh and Fable has only actually been reviewing my plans and the actual implementations. GPT-5.5, K2.7 and Opus are writing the code. Need to test GLM5.2 still.

Only finished my Fable allotment on my $20 Claude account and not going to go to $100 :D
 
Saves Fable tokens tbh and Fable has only actually been reviewing my plans and the actual implementations. GPT-5.5, K2.7 and Opus are writing the code. Need to test GLM5.2 still.

Only finished my Fable allotment on my $20 Claude account and not going to go to $100 :D
Yeah, I use 5.5 high/xhigh for everything. Ain’t got no time to worry about limits. I’m making a billion $$ SaaS here (by that I mean vapourware, that’ll die in my GitHub) .

Serious note you’re just wasting your time, other than GPT 5.5, spawning agents with inferior capabilities is just going to cost you double and more time. Opus has become incredibly stupid, 2.7 I wouldn’t even trust writing a for loop and GLM is pretty meh as well. Unfortunately these frontier labs lobotomise older models , people are even complaining about Fable now.
 
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