AI Generated / Assisted Music

It is quite convincing for typical music with radio friendly standard structures etc. I assume it's quite good with classical and film music too seeing as those all popular and readily available to feed into the model.

Can you create background scene music if you give it like emotional cues and descriptions with timings?
Yeah and I have, what you're referring to is ambient music.

Here is a quick experiment. With western style ambient song, with a minimal beat.

With the track made you can remix it now and add lyrics if you want

Now I can take it a step further and use one of my persona's I have built that has a specific sound that uses the roland 808 synth and do this, it keeps all the original elements of the original track





here is another version using one of my persona's to remix it as a funk pop song

now with lyrics


It pretty much goes on and on, can remix to a house version or deep house mix. All from a single a track with it keeping the original track and beat.
 
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Can you tie two pieces of music together yet? Does it create a transition from one to the other convincingly?
yeah as long as it isn't copyrighted, and have used it several times.
Here for example is London bridges falling down

Here is an example I used dogs barking sound clip and used it to digitalise the barking

In fact, with suno you can upload original ideas, tunes, a hum, a tree rustling, ocean waves, water running and use it as a base for a track. With Suno for a while now allows extracting stems and break them down into 12 audio stems, remix them ect. With the editing tools you can, change the song created, editing lyrics on the fly, instruments basically chops and change things. If you are a subscriber you can do so much more than the free version, They have since added the studio tool to the pro subscription plan that is insanely powerful.

I find it hilarious that people mock it, without actually grasping how much user involvement is required, suno is not a simple chatgpt prompt system it is waaaay more powerful than that.

Yes I understand there are people that dislike the idea, but to be fair, how many of those opinions are based on ignorance without any physical knowledge about the process
 
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@wizardofid , well said. I agree on all points you've made. I've tried to "defend" AI music and Suno before, but inevitably on this forum someone will just come along and bang the "AI slop" drum from time to time. Funny how they apply blanket statements about it being soulless, low effort and so on. If there's anything soulless in this scenario, it's closed minded people who make sweeping generalisations, assumptions and have irrational fear or hatred of AI.
Anyhow, rather than engage in the same old debates and arguments I just ignore these people instead. Mostly because it is usually the same people saying the same things with no acknowledgement of anyone else's point of view.
 
Having messed around with the western style it actually has fair potential and fusion potential, this one used a roland 808 with cyberpunk theme. Fusing different styles isn't always great but sometimes it works really wells, the mash up of styles here is actually pretty good and works great



This one has a EDM festival vibe.
 
@wizardofid , well said. I agree on all points you've made. I've tried to "defend" AI music and Suno before, but inevitably on this forum someone will just come along and bang the "AI slop" drum from time to time. Funny how they apply blanket statements about it being soulless, low effort and so on. If there's anything soulless in this scenario, it's closed minded people who make sweeping generalisations, assumptions and have irrational fear or hatred of AI.
Anyhow, rather than engage in the same old debates and arguments I just ignore these people instead. Mostly because it is usually the same people saying the same things with no acknowledgement of anyone else's point of view.

I understand what they are saying. As a 3d artist, we have seen a similar wave of AI made 3d content, and similarly been widely banned or forced to label as AI assisted or AI generated. AI will never be able to exactly be as creative as the mind, it has no concept nor grasps certain abstracts and imagination, it mimics very well, but it is still just an imitation. It is getting better at it, if artists feels so threaten with it, how about putting out better music. With many artists themselves pointing out the golden age of music being 60's - 90's. It is really just the same beats and style, with very little substance. Even the late prince said they same, and he had a vault with 100's of unreleased song lyrics.

Something I have noticed with AI while you can create a "breathy" voice, it still has a hard time with wording and sounding certain sounds, for example using a head voice or sounding vowels in a specific way. It does a fair job to some extent with regional voices.

As an experiment with a Russian accent and fails miserably. But it is a joke song...... and a play on words with a stereotypical person trying to speak English. Lol but it is cringe...

I mean this is fun doing experiments like this

 
The soulless comment comes from understanding that it’s been cobbled together by a machine, not a living being… add to that the fact that you can bang a new one out every minute. Value drops. It’s like the difference between a manufactured diamond vs a natural rock. One is more valuable, there’s no denying it.

AI is hollow. An LLM has no soul.
But the person using it does.
 
Sure but the person using it is not producing the music. They're guiding it and hoping for the best. You will have different results with every prompt. It's certainly not on a level or remotely on a level with something produced by talented people, hence the value is way lower. No doubt it's fun for someone who isn't musically talented.

Doesn't change the fact that it's simply the output of a computer that's been programmed to output the next likely bit of data based on it's interpretation of the prompt with some randomness thrown in.
And that is where you are entirely wrong.


These are just some of the tags that you can use to control the output of the song. You can pretty much control every single aspect of the creation is instruments, melody ect. While you may not control the exact output of the melody as the AI will try and best match the lyrics to the style and beat, however to can specify the chord progression, breakdown, pauses, vocal runs as well as the style of vocal.

But ignorance is bliss.....you think you know something, but you have made it perfectly clearly how little you actually know....much about nothing......


Made a special song just for you. Found a new way to troll losers....

Accepted Parameters:
textural – Emphasizes layered sound textures.
minimal – Sparse and open sound design.
dark – Mysterious, eerie ambient tones.
bright – Ethereal, uplifting ambiance.
dissonant – Subtle or strong unresolved tension.
Sample Usage:
[ambient: Dark, textural drones fading in and out.]
Genre-Based Usage:
Cinematic & Soundtrack: Enhances scene-setting and emotion.
Electronic & Drone: Builds slow-moving soundscapes.
Experimental & Avant-Garde: Creates abstract sonic experiences.
Lo-Fi & Chill: Soft ambient pads provide a relaxing background.
Track Structure Recommendation
[intro: Faint, layered ambient textures]
[verse: Soft ambient swells and deep bass pads]
[chorus: Expanding textures with shimmering synths]
[bridge: Minimalist moment with evolving drones]
[outro: Fading ambient echoes]
[arpeggio]
Meaning: Defines a broken chord sequence, where notes are played individually instead of simultaneously.
Placement: Typically used within [harmony]
, [melody]
, or [rhythm]
.
Accepted Parameters:
rising – Arpeggio pattern ascends.
falling – Arpeggio pattern descends.
circular – Continuously repeating patterns.
syncopated – Offbeat rhythmic arpeggios.
randomized – Variations in note sequence.
Sample Usage:
[arpeggio: Syncopated synth arpeggios driving the groove.]
Genre-Based Usage:
Classical & Baroque: Harpsichord and piano arpeggios provide intricate motion.
Rock & Progressive: Guitar arpeggios enhance melody flow.
Electronic & Synthwave: Rapid, repeating synth arpeggios create movement.
Jazz & Blues: Improvised arpeggios add harmonic fluidity.
Track Structure Recommendation
[intro: Soft, rising piano arpeggios]
[verse: Low arpeggios supporting the melody]
[chorus: Faster, syncopated arpeggio patterns]
[bridge: Swirling synth arpeggios layered over bass]
[outro: Descending, fading arpeggios]
[arrangement]
Meaning: Defines the organization of musical elements, including instrumentation, section order, and layering.
Placement: Typically used within [structure]
, [orchestration]
, or [mixing]
.
Accepted Parameters:
dense – Full, layered orchestration.
minimal – Sparse, delicate textures.
layered – Different instrumental layers building over time.
dynamic – Varying section energy throughout.
orchestral – Classical-style arrangement.
Sample Usage:
[arrangement: Layered instrumentation building towards climax.]
Genre-Based Usage:
Classical & Symphonic: Dense orchestral arrangements for cinematic pieces.
Jazz & Big Band: Dynamic arrangements with brass and woodwinds.
Electronic & Pop: Layered synth arrangements create depth.
Minimalist & Experimental: Sparse arrangements leave room for textures.
Track Structure Recommendation
[intro: Minimal arrangement with only a piano and soft pads]
[verse: Gradually introducing more instruments]
[chorus: Full, layered arrangement with harmonies]
[bridge: Stripped-down section before a build-up]
[outro: Gradual removal of instruments for a soft fade-out]
[articulation]
Meaning: Specifies how notes are played in terms of attack, transition, and connection between them.
Placement: Typically placed within [instruments]
, [melody]
, or [style]
.
Accepted Parameters:
staccato – Short, detached notes.
legato – Smooth, connected notes.
marcato – Strongly accented notes.
tenuto – Notes played at full duration.
accented – Notes emphasized with additional force.
spiccato – Lightly bouncing bow strokes (for strings).
sustained – Notes held for extended durations.
Sample Usage:
[articulation: Staccato strings and legato woodwinds for contrast.]
Advice:
Use “staccato” for punchy, rhythmic compositions.
Use “legato” for smooth and flowing melodies.
Combine articulations to create dynamic contrasts.
[attack]
Meaning: Defines how quickly a note reaches its full volume after being played.
Placement: Typically placed within [dynamics]
, [instruments]
, or [mixing]
.
Accepted Parameters:
sharp – A quick, percussive attack (good for plucked strings, electronic leads).
soft – A gentle, gradual attack (suitable for pads, ambient textures).
gradual – Slow attack leading to full volume (useful for swells and cinematic soundscapes).
percussive – Extremely sharp attack for rhythmic impact.
Sample Usage:
[attack: Soft attack on synth pads for smooth transitions.]
Advice:
Use sharp attack for rhythmic punch (percussion, electric bass).
Use gradual attack for build-ups and orchestral swells.
Combine with [sustain]
to shape the envelope of a sound.
[background-vocals]
Meaning: Specifies harmonized or complementary vocals that support the lead vocal.
Placement: Typically used within [vocals]
, [harmony]
, or [structure]
.
Accepted Parameters:
harmonic – Background vocals provide harmonic support.
call-response – Background vocals interact with the lead.
layered – Multiple vocal tracks stacked for richness.
ethereal – Distant, reverb-heavy vocals for ambiance.
chant – Repeated, rhythmic background phrases.
Sample Usage:
[background-vocals: Layered harmonies in the chorus for depth.]
Genre-Based Usage:
Pop & R&B: Rich harmonic background vocals enhance melodies.
Gospel & Soul: Call-and-response vocals create intensity.
Electronic & Dream Pop: Ethereal vocals blend into atmospheric textures.
Rock & Metal: Chanted or shouted background vocals add energy.
Track Structure Recommendation
[intro: Sparse, whispered background vocals]
[verse: Subtle harmonies supporting the melody]
[chorus: Layered, full background harmonies]
[bridge: Call-and-response vocals adding drama]
[outro: Ethereal fade-out with reverb on background vocals]
[bass]
Meaning: Defines the bassline characteristics, its prominence, and style.
Placement: Typically placed within [instruments]
, [mixing]
, or [rhythm]
.
Accepted Parameters:
deep – Low, rumbling bass frequencies.
sub-bass – Focus on low-end frequencies under 60Hz.
pulsing – Repetitive bass rhythm, often in electronic music.
saturated – Heavy, distorted bass (common in phonk, industrial, metal).
modulated – Bass with frequency or amplitude variations.
syncopated – Offbeat or groove-heavy bass patterns.
Sample Usage:
[bass: Deep, pulsating sub-bass driving the rhythm.]
Advice:
Deep/sub-bass works best for electronic, trap, and cinematic music.
Syncopated bass is ideal for funk, jazz, and reggae.
Use saturation or distortion to create a gritty, aggressive tone.
[bass-slide]
Meaning: Specifies a sliding bass note, often used for groove or tension.
Placement: Typically used within [bass]
, [rhythm]
, or [effects]
.
Accepted Parameters:
upward – Slide from a lower pitch to a higher note.
downward – Slide from a higher pitch to a lower note.
glissando – A smooth, continuous slide.
percussive – Short, quick slides for rhythmic emphasis.
synth – A bass slide effect generated on a synthesizer.
Sample Usage:
[bass-slide: Downward glissando before the chorus drop.]
 
Your lack of understanding of the technology or my point doesn't make anyone wrong, or AI's output more valuable.
On the contrary, it appears you're an emotional debater.

Next time share your prompts with your results so we can discuss your input prope

yeah you were already on my ignore list just forgot why....remember now. So Bye !!
 
Sure but the person using it is not producing the music. They're guiding it and hoping for the best. You will have different results with every prompt. It's certainly not on a level or remotely on a level with something produced by talented people, hence the value is way lower. No doubt it's fun for someone who isn't musically talented.

Doesn't change the fact that it's simply the output of a computer that's been programmed to output the next likely bit of data based on it's interpretation of the prompt with some randomness thrown in.
AI haters like to say there's no talent in the process. Sure, it's not the same as traditional music but to dismiss AI music as talentless is akin to a portrait painter claiming a portrait photographer is talentless because they used a "machine" to make a picture. It is a different talent, but talent nonetheless - even if you don't personally recognise or appreciate it.
You would need to actually listen and absorb what the person is doing before you dismiss it based on the technology or tools they used to produce it.
 
You’re completely misreading me if you’re calling me a hater. It’s another technology that helps me in my job, what’s not to like? Im talking about value. Im glad it enables you to do stuff you enjoy but I was simply pointing out WHY many people don’t value the output and feel it’s soul-less. If you apply your mind I think you’ll agree with what I said about why people don’t value an AI product.
Never said that you specifically are an AI hater, but you are saying many of the things they say, and I already know the various reasons they use to argue their point of view. Often they say, similar to your reasoning, that "all" AI output is low effort "slop" made by talentless people. I'm saying that's not true. One cannot make blanket statements like this unless you know the facts about the effort and work done by that particular person to produce a specific piece. Also, don't forget there is plenty "human slop" out there as well.
 
if you’re not seeing the slop then you’re not using the web. It’s all over the place. Sure a blanket statement is silly, as with everything. On AI has no soul, it doesn’t. It’s a machine. Im just stating the obvious (to some)
Sigh. I never said there isn't slop. In fact I reminded you that there is human slop too... Plenty of it. But don't be so quick to dismiss someone's work by the tools they used to make it. Even if you think it's easy, or uninspired, or whatever, that's fine, but you can't paint everything with the same brush. Also remember that guitars, microphones, keyboards, drums... Don't have souls either.
 
Sigh. I never said there isn't slop. In fact I reminded you that there is human slop too... Plenty of it. But don't be so quick to dismiss someone's work by the tools they used to make it. Even if you think it's easy, or uninspired, or whatever, that's fine, but you can't paint everything with the same brush. Also remember that guitars, microphones, keyboards, drums... Don't have souls either.
Nah dude give it up.Not going to bother with trolls on ignore already

Anyways lets get back on subject.

Been doing a few halloween stuff for next month. Had this idea for a song for a scat/rap with 1960's pop fusion.
I love this style something original and unique a zombie love song, with a nice beat, took a few tries the middle section rap breakdown is a nice touch.

 
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I decided to take the leap and upgrade my subscription to try out Suno Studio. It might be a bit on the pricey side, but it's incredibly powerful and seems worth it if you're into tweaking, experimenting, and perfecting your music. I'll share something once I've come up with something new or interesting, though it’ll probably take a few days of messing around first. ;)
 
I decided to take the leap and upgrade my subscription to try out Suno Studio. It might be a bit on the pricey side, but it's incredibly powerful and seems worth it if you're into tweaking, experimenting, and perfecting your music. I'll share something once I've come up with something new or interesting, though it’ll probably take a few days of messing around first. ;)
Will check it out later. A bit busy with other stuff


Did an afrikaans version, of the just get along, I think the style and lyrics suits afrikaans and it did a pretty damn good job with the afrikaans version of it.


Saam te leef
 
So, this is my first Suno Studio-made song. Basically, I guided the rhythm guitar by a vocal sample... added the Indian hand drumming intro as a separate stem, then generated a section that blended / merged that intro into the guitar-driven riff of the song... also added middle Eastern / Indian flavour throughout.

 
So, this is my first Suno Studio-made song. Basically, I guided the rhythm guitar by a vocal sample... added the Indian hand drumming intro as a separate stem, then generated a section that blended / merged that intro into the guitar-driven riff of the song... also added middle Eastern / Indian flavour throughout.


Do you mind if I have a crack at it ?
 
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