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I'm looking for help and advice please.

My SO had a major alcohol problem many years ago (18, to be exact) and gave up, cold turkey.

Life circumstances caused him to pick up the bottle again about 3 months ago, but this time it's far worse, which has caused immense problems in the home, work, etc. Our kids even moved out and told us they weren't coming back until he quit.

He told them he did and he took himself off to 2 AA meetings. Obviously he hadn't quit but has been trying - he's still drinking daily at work and on the sly at home.

Today he had a breakdown of note as he passed out for 2 hours in his car from pure exhaustion (stress), and, because of alcohol. He went straight to the doctor to get meds to help him stop the drinking. He's trying to go cold turkey again but it's a lot harder this time and I can see the stress and I feel totally helpless.

What can I do to help? Any wise suggestions? I'm checking on him every half an hour, threw all alcohol in the house away and have hidden all car keys away.
I wanted him to take the day off tomorrow and keep him distracted but he has to go in to work and I'm sitting here worried already.

Any advice for me please. ....?
I need him to get through this
 
Magic Mushrooms, worth watching this

[video=youtube;tz4CrWE_P0g]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tz4CrWE_P0g[/video]
 
Tough one.
First get him to acknowledge that there's a problem.
Denial could sometimes be a hindrance to getting to the root cause of his addiction.
 
noni12 said:
I'm looking for help and advice please.

My SO had a major alcohol problem many years ago (18, to be exact) and gave up, cold turkey.

Life circumstances caused him to pick up the bottle again about 3 months ago, but this time it's far worse, which has caused immense problems in the home, work, etc. Our kids even moved out and told us they weren't coming back until he quit.

He told them he did and he took himself off to 2 AA meetings. Obviously he hadn't quit but has been trying - he's still drinking daily at work and on the sly at home.

Today he had a breakdown of note as he passed out for 2 hours in his car from pure exhaustion (stress), and, because of alcohol. He went straight to the doctor to get meds to help him stop the drinking. He's trying to go cold turkey again but it's a lot harder this time and I can see the stress and I feel totally helpless.

What can I do to help? Any wise suggestions? I'm checking on him every half an hour, threw all alcohol in the house away and have hidden all car keys away.
I wanted him to take the day off tomorrow and keep him distracted but he has to go in to work and I'm sitting here worried already.

Any advice for me please. ....?
I need him to get through this
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Rehab center is the best option if he admits to the problem and is willing to quit, in fact he should have gone to rehab the first time that he wanted to quit.
 
WaxLyrical said:
Tough one.
First get him to acknowledge that there's a problem.
Denial could sometimes be a hindrance to getting to the root cause of his addiction.
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He has.....that's why he broke down today.......so much has happened in the 18 years he hadn't drunk for and now, this time round, all his demons are facing him and he needs to deal with them. Unfortunately he doesn't have medical aid, otherwise I would have already taken him to a clinic.
 
Hi Been down this road it is not easy, so called tough love all that nonsense, rehab and all, Is he on medical aid see if they will pay for rehab, as for the AA personally i do no trust that as i attended a few meetings as a assistant, there is anti boose that makes the alcoholic sick when they drink, Its one a day, I did do that then i remember getting a message in the day, time to cross over to the Dark side, Drinking started although it made her Sick, There is an implant that can be done as well,

My advice.

Do not believe what you hear it is normally a lie.
get professional help, medical aid Rehab etc..
It can get worse there are actual support meetings for the victims where you can get some good and helpful advice.
Hide all Money and make sure nothing is stolen or taken Pawned.

I wish you luck it is not easy as the alcoholic i was involved with moved back to NZ and she was hospitalized for 3 months, and still to this day she still falls off the Bus...

The fact is this will never go away and will have to be somehow controlled managed for the rest of his life.
 
noni12 said:
I'm looking for help and advice please.

My SO had a major alcohol problem many years ago (18, to be exact) and gave up, cold turkey.

Life circumstances caused him to pick up the bottle again about 3 months ago, but this time it's far worse, which has caused immense problems in the home, work, etc. Our kids even moved out and told us they weren't coming back until he quit.

He told them he did and he took himself off to 2 AA meetings. Obviously he hadn't quit but has been trying - he's still drinking daily at work and on the sly at home.

Today he had a breakdown of note as he passed out for 2 hours in his car from pure exhaustion (stress), and, because of alcohol. He went straight to the doctor to get meds to help him stop the drinking. He's trying to go cold turkey again but it's a lot harder this time and I can see the stress and I feel totally helpless.

What can I do to help? Any wise suggestions? I'm checking on him every half an hour, threw all alcohol in the house away and have hidden all car keys away.
I wanted him to take the day off tomorrow and keep him distracted but he has to go in to work and I'm sitting here worried already.

Any advice for me please. ....?
I need him to get through this
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No wise advice from me, I'm afraid; I've been on the other side of this to you.

You will need a lot of strength, but above all, all the Love you can muster.

I cannot tell you more.
 
mmmig said:
Magic Mushrooms, worth watching this
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Definitely this. ^

And the problem is psychological, you mention stress a lot. Deal with the underlying issues stress and life circumstances and the alcohol won't be a problem.
 
Any change of getting away for a week - small cottage on a farm or something away from everything?
 
Aquila ka Hecate said:
There may be a l-o-n-g waiting time to get into these. I know that was true 20 years ago.
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I did not say it will be easy to get into. However if that is there route they wish to go it would be better for them to get him registered sooner rather than later. And in the meantime hopefully they can find an "out-patient" style setup that can maybe encourage him to at least partially assist.

Not everyone is the same.


While I was a younger child I do remember a few things. My aunt was commited to rehab by the court. Yes, she was VERY BAD. She was in there for a very long time. She then got a job/home that required her to stay clean. Was a reward offered to her for completing the program and not relapsing for 2 years. Guess what? Less than a year on the job and she relapsed. I guess access to money made booze all that much more inviting.

So while I do not know what is required to enter govt rehab I do know its possible.
My aunt died a few years ago from double pneumonia. Why coz she was dirt ass poor, was cold, got sick and govt doctors that she went to kept giving her meds and sending her home. She passed out one day, got booked into govt hospital. Only then did the doctors check her lungs. It had progressed sooooo badly that she died 3 days later.

Alcohol can ruin lives if one cannot control the "need" for it.



Above is one of the reasons why I don't drink often. Really don't need to become dependent on something. Not all of us are the same.
 
Good luck. This is one of the worst situations to be in imo. A positive is that this is not entrenched behaviour, so he should be able to pull out of it much quicker. I have dealt with varying levels of alcoholism in my family my entire life. I think it's far more rife than people care to admit. It's a journey, and some days will be good, some days will be worse.

He has to deal with the his pre-existing psychological issues, such as anxiety and/or depression. I would approach his employers and see if they have any means to assist him. Some companies do have programs that offer counselling. Sadly, I don't put much stock in state facilities. I have been down that road, and private rehab has vastly better success rates. If you have savings, you should consider using them to put him into a private facility. The programs last around 12 weeks iirc. It's expensive, around R50k for a full 12 week program. But could cost you twenty times more in terms of loss of income and potential future medical issues.

Someone close to me is a fully functioning alcoholic (when she does not go on complete benders) for around 20 years. She has been an alcoholic since her mid twenties. She has to live with it, and everyone around her as well. It's hard, and people pushing her away makes things worse. Any sort of turnoil in her life sends her into a binge. The idea is to take it day by day, and she should reach out when she feels things spiraling out of control. I try support her as much as I can, and help her deal with her issues, but it still happens. There is no controlling it, or providing enough support to stop it. The aim is to have more good days than bad, and deal with issues slowly. I have even seen her mental state deteriorate drastically the older she gets. She will never come right. I have lost direct family (at shockingly young ages) from alcohol and drug abuse. As time passes, it gets harder to deal with it. Please let my tale be a cautionary one, and consider private rehab.
 
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Thank you for all the advice. I'm not going to answer one by one.

He's about to go on a medical aid, so the First place we'll look is for a psych rehab facility that will deal with all his childhood issues which lead him to the drinking.

He works for himself....unfortunately, that's why he can drink at work. So, going away for a few days is also not an option right now as the business is so busy right now.

He was a functioning alcoholic before, and I guess he still is but this time round, he's drinking and trying to deal with all the truths of his life that have come out in the past few years.........18 years ago, that was all hidden.

He had a good night last night and had no choice but not to drink - no alcohol and no keys. I went past his office an hour ago and still nothing. I'm hoping that he can make it just until tonight as he's going to an AA meeting but we will see.
 
Rehab and AA or SMART.

I know the anti-AA sentiment exists, however, a key part of the AA program is confronting who you are and why you are hiding from life in a bottle (could be drugs or gambling or porn or whatever instead of booze).

The bottle is after all just a sign. The real problem lies elsewhere, and the guy needs the tools to deal with life on life's terms.
 
My SO just sent me this....
I'm so proud.
And, so far he's been ok.....I'm keeping his mind off things by doing things with him, chatting when he gets irate and calming him when he gets the urge to drink.
So far, so good......but I know it's still a long road ahead.
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noni12 do not ignore the posts above referring to magic mushrooms.

I know people who were addicted to crack cocaine and alcohol , they have been clean for extended periods of time thanks to shrooms.

The trick is to administer a small dosage every second day, he will not get any hallucinations on these small dosages.

I can refer you to a store that sells online. They have satisfied customers all over the globe.

Yes, I also microdose, not for addiction though.

The benefits are amazing and too many to list.

http://reset.me/story/benefits-of-microdosing-with-lsd-and-psilocybin-mushrooms/
 
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