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Aljazeera English are useless and massively biased when reporting where Israel is involved and I am dubious about any ME reporting (self interest). They have done a good job (IMO) where India and Pakistan are concerned (the Mumbai attacks) however – no agenda?

Initially, I thought Pakistan were the bad guys (also Aljazeera) but recently I caught a broadcast where the Indian Home Affairs minister was interviewed by an Aljazeera staffer (blonde, young, male). The Indian dude was pretentious, arrogant and slimy. I would have blown a fuse, but the Aljazeera staffer was diplomatic and unfailingly polite as he backed the weasel into a corner. There appears to be some stinky stuff on the Indian side as well. They are not as angelic as they like to make-out.
 
Totally agree with you. Theyre pretty useless on reporting on Israel or America.. you know they are pandering to the religious guppies in their audience.

I find their coverage of countries where there are not jews or Americans to be pretty informative.
 
Modern "news" media is about as reliable and trustworthy as statistics. You will only get the picture they want to show. :rolleyes:
 
MadMailMan said:
Modern "news" media is about as reliable and trustworthy as statistics. You will only get the picture they want to show. :rolleyes:
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That is so but I am not particularly interested in India/Pakistan squabbling (if I was I would examine other sources). For casual interest, the Indian view, the Pakistani view and the Aljazeera view are sufficient for my truth value (it’s just that I don’t wish to be insulted like a gormless idiot by a news service). If I wanted a view approximating the facts (you would probably never get this) I would see what CNN, Sky, the BBC and Russia Today had to say, take the average, incorporate my own biases and accept this as the truth. Too much effort and I’m not sufficiently interested.
 
lmao. Well if you don;t want to hear news of jews doing bad things then aljazeera isn't for you. They fairly fair, you should watch interviews more.. but the problem is this. Israeli's in particular some of the okes who were caught talking crap in the recent gaza war esp mark regev plus that blonde chick who handles some military pr, are very arrogant and abrupt at times. I mean, when i watch bbc and others interview the same guys they are more calm but then bbc doesn't always ask them questions they want to dodge nor do they point out the fact that they lie continually, and consequently their words of 'trusts me, i'm telling the truth this time' are pretty meaningless, do they?

Then there is the Israeli ploy. No don't get me wrong, I like healthy debates but sometimes i get sick of people in interviews dodging questions and talking about things that have nothing to do with topic and some of their interviewees do it a LOT. they have regular pr people that come on so some reporters/anchors seem to give them too much leeway and this gets very annoying. This happens on bothsides of the fence but it was funny watching the israeli's start with this tactic and then seeing weeks later palestinians doing the same lol. Of cause the more skilled ones push the issue at hand and they get answers.

Aljazeera DOES get into hyped scenarios. Look at the hijacked mexican plane today.. at one stage they said it was a libiyan terrorist when it was later revealed to be bolivian christian religious nutt who said he had divine revelations of an earthquake lol. I guess sources was dodgy?

Back to the ME thing / Israel issue.. you got to remember this. They will carry all news from the region as well as their own researched stuff(and their reporters aren't always muslim either). You'll find their stuff predominately on the palestinian side but then the Israeli's are not very forthcoming lately with their own media who ask probing questions too. BTW Aljazeera is officially blocked in the region(not sure if its still) because the Pa/plo + Israel was pissed for them airing a story about the rumoured/conspiracy of yassir arafat's death.

American news?? Are you serious.. check out the Riz Khan debate on healthcare and their look at advertising in the US. That was pretty scary when you had a medical team in the respective countries astonished at the BS advertising of the public healthcare done by right wing.

That being said.. you'd be pretty silly not to realise that bbc has bias, its a state sponsored broadcaster. Sky + fox is run by murdoc's conglomeration and i'd rather be stuck with bbc than that crap, hell if you have enough money you can make him shape any story to the way you want! Cnn.. well they've made a few telling mistakes and i nolonger trust american news after hyped vids post 9/11. The US sponsors basically a terrorist like news network in the ME of all places trying to get viewers. i sh*t you not, sadly for them not many watches it. Russia + China + France all have arab stations too!

So yah.. out of what you mentioned BBC is the only one i check out with a pinch of salt.. checkout their reporting vs the libiyan released guy vs aljazeera and you will see the difference. Another one would be european news stations vs the racist killing of the egyptian. BBC was teh main one to pick up the story and run with it while the others basically snubbed it. Now had this been in the UK you wonder if it would have gotten as much attention by BBC or whether like the other continents news channels they'd have dodged it more as it reflects badly on their own populous.

The blonde guy is kinda cool as a reporter as he is always on the go everywhere in some volatile places too. The afghan reporter is the most boring with his monotonous voice. The south african ones(mostly anchors) handle problem interviewees VERY well(plenty practice in SA ;)). The Gaza reporters are a bit well.. i dunno too much sentimental reporting with the one lady and the west bank one(the one that got gassed) is cool as she travels around a bit more but the Israeli's don't like her.

Basically what i am saying is this.. their reporters in ME are limited geographically, content wise(they stay in the region, which is why they could report from in gaza when it was blocked), and then Israel is VERY careful with handling aljazeera (they get caught a LOT <-- and it makes for bad Israeli pr so they refuse often) thus their reporting reflects it. But thats what you get when a state doesn't like you.
 
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...the recent gaza war esp mark regev plus that blonde chick who handles some military pr, are very arrogant and abrupt at times.
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Of course they are! They are continually interrupted by the biased Aljazeera mob when they get on an uncomfortable track that Aljazeera don’t want their viewers to hear. Analyse the sound bites the Israeli’s use (if they have time to think of them). They strive to construct their sound bites in an integrated fashion so that they can’t be quoted out of context or their quotes used without including damning material.

Remember:

In all this, money matters. It is the deep pocket of Sheikh Hamad al Thani, the ruler of Qatar, which got the Aljazeera Arabic channel going 10 years ago. Once more, it is he who is bankrolling Aljazeera International......

Aljazeera English, **produced under the aegis of Aljazeera International**, makes a virtue of being based in the Middle East. Its media pack states: "From its unique position within the Arab and Muslim World, looking outwards, Aljazeera International reports inclusively, examining all perspectives of a story and providing a fresh 360-degree approach to news coverage.".....
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Yeah, right!

How can you expect Aljazeera English to be unbiased when al Thani (ruler of Qatar) also owns Aljazeera Arabic – an extremely anti-Israel station run by spittle-flecked, Quran clutching, doggerel-spouting bunch of wild-eyed religious fanatics? I would imagine some anti-Israel bias would creep in, bleeding over from the Arabic channel.

I mean, when i watch bbc and others interview the same guys they are more calm but then bbc doesn't always ask them questions they want to dodge nor do they point out the fact that they lie continually, and consequently their words of 'trusts me, i'm telling the truth this time' are pretty meaningless, do they?
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Even Aljazeera (an ‘Empire’ episode) concede that the BBC are amongst the most unbiased.

Then there is the Israeli ploy. No don't get me wrong, I like healthy debates but sometimes i get sick of people in interviews dodging questions and talking about things that have nothing to do with topic and some of their interviewees do it a LOT. they have regular pr people that come on so some reporters/anchors seem to give them too much leeway and this gets very annoying. This happens on bothsides of the fence but it was funny watching the israeli's start with this tactic and then seeing weeks later palestinians doing the same lol. Of cause the more skilled ones push the issue at hand and they get answers.
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I have never seen this. Aljazeera has always started the hostile interviewing. And they are so blatant that I feel insulted. If I am to have the wool pulled over my eyes, it should be done with some finesse.

American news?? Are you serious.. check out the Riz Khan debate on healthcare and their look at advertising in the US. That was pretty scary when you had a medical team in the respective countries astonished at the BS advertising of the public healthcare done by right wing.
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That’s what Aljazeera is good for. Presenting an alternate view which has not been sanitised or glossed-over by Western media. I am just including ALL media in my cocktail (including American) and drawing my own conclusions. I do not consider Aljazeera to be unbiased and to have a monopoly on the truth or unbiased reporting.

The blonde guy is kinda cool as a reporter as he is always on the go everywhere in some volatile places too. The afghan reporter is the most boring with his monotonous voice. The south african ones(mostly anchors) handle problem interviewees VERY well(plenty practice in SA ). The Gaza reporters are a bit well.. i dunno too much sentimental reporting with the one lady and the west bank one(the one that got gassed) is cool as she travels around a bit more but the Israeli's don't like her.
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I am pissed-off at all of them for their bias. Even the Aljazeera ‘Listening Post’ (a media program) which I considered the most balanced, exhibited bias. I think the Pakistan reporter is the most boring with his monotonous voice, especially when he is reading from a prepared script. I particularly dislike the guy who does ‘Inside Iraq’. Typical Arab, strident and arrogant.
 
aqua, that was a very good article and i agree with the perspectives mentioned therein. It must be very difficult for arabs to report on the palestinian situation though, based on the controversial establishment of the state.

i watch al jazeera on livestation very often and regularly get involved with the chats that take place there. there are some very informed people that put forward brilliant arguments and very lively debates.

I get so annoyed watching CNN fox etc. because of the level of false reporting and murdoch spin in the attempt to change the story in the favor of america. like the recent tanker bombing.

i watch the bbc quite often too and they do some good reporting, if they are not reporting on themselves.
 
Fieldy if you believe that the Arabs cannot report on the ME especially Palestine without taking a side.

Watch a doccie called peace, propaganada and the promised land. You tell me which side is more biased.
 
I've seen it, and I can't remember how it was reported, but I remember it to be fiercely against isreali, but that may be because it was truthful, and what the israeli's are doing is a crime against humanity, and have no feelings for palestinian suffering and life.

I have seen Israeli television translated to english in various youtube channels, and it incites racism and hatred very often. But the same can be seen on many of the fringe arab channels that origionate all over the middle east.
 
Fieldy said:
I've seen it, and I can't remember how it was reported, but I remember it to be fiercely against isreali, but that may be because it was truthful, and what the israeli's are doing is a crime against humanity, and have no feelings for palestinian suffering and life.

I have seen Israeli television translated to english in various youtube channels, and it incites racism and hatred very often. But the same can be seen on many of the fringe arab channels that origionate all over the middle east.
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gee, these poor suffering palestinians - toiling in the sun, tending their olive trees OH and Killing innocent civilians - you forget to mention that teeny weeny fact:

Some Example of Palestinian terror that conveniently you choose to ignore

July 12, 2005 Netanya 5 killed, 70+ wounded Islamic Jihad Suicide bombing outside shopping mall.
February 25, 2005 Tel Aviv 5 killed, 50 wounded Islamic Jihad Bombing outside night club.
October 7, 2004 Taba 12 killed, 120+ wounded Bombing at Sinai holiday resorts. August 31, 2004 Beersheba 16 killed, 100 wounded Hamas Two suicide bombings on buses.
March 14, 2004 Ashdod 10 killed, 16 wounded Hamas and Fatah Al Aqsa Martyrs' Brigades Twin suicide bombings at port
February 22, 2004 Jerusalem 8 killed, over 60 wounded Fatah Al Aqsa Martyrs' Brigades Suicide bombing on bus
January 29, 2004 Jerusalem 10 killed, 50 wounded Fatah al-Aksa Martyrs Brigade Suicide bombing on bus
October 4, 2003 Haifa 19 killed, 60 wounded Islamic Jihad Suicide bombing in restaurant owned by Jews and Arabs
September 9, 2003 Tel Aviv 8 killed, 32 wounded Hamas Suicide bombing at a hitchhiking post for soldiers
September 9, 2003 Jerusalem 7 killed, 50 wounded Hamas Suicide bombing at Cafe Hillel
August 19, 2003 Jerusalem 22 killed, 135 wounded Hamas Suicide bombing on a bus January 5, 2003 Tel Aviv 23 killed, 108 injured Fatah al-Aksa Martyrs Brigade Two suicide bombers in an immigrant neighborhood
June 19, 2002 Jerusalem 7 killed, 50 injured Suicide bombing at a bus stop
June 18, 2002 Jerusalem 19 killed, 74 were injured Hamas Suicide bombing on a bus June 5, 2002 Megiddo 17 killed, 38 injured Islamic Jihad Car bomb next to bus
May 27, 2002 Petah Tikvah 2 killed, 37 injured Fatah al-Aksa Martyrs Brigade Suicide bomb in shopping mall
May 22, 2002 Rishon Lezion 2 killed, 40 wounded Suicide bomb on pedestrian mall May 19, 2002 Netanya 3 killed, 59 injured Hamas and the PFLP Suicide bomb in market May 7, 2002 Rishon Lezion 16 killed, 55 injured Hamas Suicide bomb in pool hall
Apr 12, 2002 Jerusalem 6 killed, 104 injured Fatah al-Aksa Martyrs Brigade Suicide bomb in Mahane Yehuda market
Apr 10, 2002 Kibbutz Yagur 8 killed, 22 injured Hamas Suicide bombing on bus
March 31, 2002 Haifa 14 Killed, 40 Wounded Hamas Suicide bombing at restaurant March 29, 2002 Jerusalem 2 killed, 28 Wounded Fatah al-Aksa Martyrs Brigade Suicide bombing at supermarket in Kiryat Yovel
March 27, 2002 Netanya 22 killed, 140 Wounded Hamas Suicide bombing at Passover seder at Park Hotel
March 21, 2002 Jerusalem 3 killed, 86 Wounded Fatah al-Aksa Martyrs Brigade Suicide bombing downtown
March 20, 2002 Afula 7 killed, 30 wounded Fatah al-Aksa Martyrs Brigade Suicide bombing on bus
March 14, 2002 Karni-Netzarim road 3 Killed, 2 Wounded Fatah al-Aksa Martyrs Brigade Remote Control Mine
March 12, 2002 near Kibbutz Matzuva 6 Killed, 7 Wounded Fatah al-Aksa Martyrs Brigade Gunmen Ambush Vehicles

this is just a sprinkle of Palestinian terror attacks and then you come with some bs claim that Israelis have no feelings for Palestinian suffering
 
za1... thats a really good cut and paste job... but do the maths... that doesn't even add up to the hundreds of (innocent) casualties in Gaza alone earlier this year.

but it doesn't mean number of deaths will ultimately determine who is right or wrong. its not even about right or wrong. its about people wanting to take land that they'd abandoned centuries ago and now suddenly proclaim it as their promised land. and thats not even the issue...

its the ruthless manner in which they took it.
alot of it may be propaganda, but the harsh treatment, limitations imposed upon and the destruction of property, possession and life will make anyone see that Israel is out of control.

even hardline zionists are now taking notice. did you see the recent New York protests by Not In My Name?
apartheid began to come apart at the seams in exactly the same way. eventually the US, israel and the UN will run out of excuses...
 
Unfortunately I can cut and paste lots more, as the terror list goes on and on and on.

Its not about Math, if it was about math, then we can also start counting the 5000+ rockets Hamas launched prior to the Gaza war - I mean come on, what other nation is going to sit quietly for so long, 7 years they warned Hamas.

Israel doesn't need excuses, it is fighting a war of survival, one where there is no second chance. Go read the Hamas charter and then come back and say Israel is out of control.
 
Lol, justifying Jewish actions? Ridiculous.

Give them their bloody land back. Until then die to the hands of the suicide bombers.

You cant justify Zionism. Lol, we realise now! Hitler saw it long ago.
 
You mean the same entity, part which is now The Hashemite Kingdom of Jordan, being illegally imposed?

I want a GTI said:
Lol, justifying Jewish actions? Ridiculous.

Give them their bloody land back. Until then die to the hands of the suicide bombers.

You cant justify Zionism. Lol, we realise now! Hitler saw it long ago.
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