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With the improvement in wind turbines, an almost free power generation option which should be considered for cheap, sustainable power generation is is using the ‘chimney effect’ or the difference in air pressure at low and high altitudes. Chimneys are built to remove smoke from a fire (low altitude). A chimney above a fire goes to a higher altitude. The barometric pressure (air pressure) is higher at the fire level and lower at the top of the chimney. This creates a ‘sucking’ effect as the higher pressure air (and smoke) goes up the chimney seeking equilibrium with the lower pressure at the top. Put a power generating wind vane at the top and air displacement from lower to higher altitudes will create a perpetual breeze. You would need a high ‘chimney’ to get a respectable air velocity. Architecturally designed free air flow.



A free-standing ‘chimney’ structure is much too expensive, would be dangerous in high winds and would be a hazard to air traffic. Rather a number of these ‘chimneys’ are built up a local mountain or hill several 1000 feet high (following terrestrial contours). Closed ‘chimney channels’ are excavated up the mountain/hill – from high (bottom) air pressure to low (top) air pressure. A power station is built at the top to maintain the turbines and condition the power to feed into the national grid. A funicular gets the few 10’s of workers to the top. Administration and clerical functions would remain at the bottom. The only workers to go up and down the funicular would be different shifts of engineers, operators and maintenance personnel to maintain the turbines and condition the power to feed into the national grid.



Aside: *Burnelli’s Rule.

Burnelli was an aeronautical engineer and his theorem relates to how wings generate lift. An illustration of the principle is the ‘poor man’s supercharging’ on motorcycles (and muscle cars). We call them ‘velocity stacks’ in SA (I had them on my bike). The core principle of Burnelli’s Rule is that, “with an increase in velocity, there is a decrease in air pressure”. How this worked as a motorcycle supercharger are the trumpet shaped, megaphone type orifices fitted to the carb intakes. The m/c engine would suck air through the megaphones and the restriction where they bolted onto the carb intake would increase air velocity (physics). This (according to the rule) would create a low pressure at the carb inlet and it would suck air even harder. Rinse and repeat.




So you would have a perpetual breeze turning a wind turbine (generating electricity) as air moved from a low to high pressure area. On the power generating ‘chimney’ a variable restrictor would keep the air velocity constant and by manipulating restrictors and switching turbines in and out (mostly automated), variations in barometric pressure could be solved and a consistent power level supplied to the grid.



Secondary use: Because the land cannot be used for anything else (2nd rate land generally) and over the years, top soil will accumulate over the ‘chimneys’ it will become a nature preserve for local flora and fauna. A perimeter fence around the hill will keep humans out (because danger) leading to a pristine natural ecology.
 
I presume you mean bird deaths? That wouldn’t be a factor as the blades of the wind turbine are in the mouth of the ‘chimney’ where it gains maximum advantage from the breeze of high to low air pressure. Many bladed in a tube. Similar to a jet engine.
 
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The rest of your post is garbage. Chimneys suck air up because the air is hot, and therefore less dense, and moves up of its own accord. There is no pressure differential in a cold chimney between the inside and outside air at any particular Altitude.
 
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*bernoulli

The rest of your post is garbage. Chimneys suck air up because the air is hot, and therefore less dense, and moves up of its own accord. There is no pressure differential in a cold chimney between the inside and outside air at any particular Altitude.

That's why we're gonna power these “wind turbines” with coal!
 
*bernoulli

The rest of your post is garbage. Chimneys suck air up because the air is hot, and therefore less dense, and moves up of its own accord. There is no pressure differential in a cold chimney between the inside and outside air at any particular Altitude.
 
Chimneys suck air up because the air is hot, and therefore less dense, and moves up of its own accord.
Of course there is. How do you think altimeters work? Parachutists and aircraft? The effect and the creation of moving air is why I used the example of a chimney. Its not as simplistic as ‘heated air is less dense therefore it rises’.
 
Of course there is. How do you think altimeters work? Parachutists and aircraft? The effect and the creation of moving air is why I used the example of a chimney. Its not as simplistic as ‘heated air is less dense therefore it rises’.
Incorrect. It is that simple.

As to your example of intake trumpets creating low pressure to suck more air in, just lol.
Ram air induction seeks to increase intake pressure, not decrease it.
 
Incorrect. It is that simple.

As to your example of intake trumpets creating low pressure to suck more air in, just lol.
Ram air induction seeks to increase intake pressure, not decrease it.
It’s a bit more complicated than high school physics. Go to a motorcycle shop for lessons on velocity stacks.
 
Lucky I have university physics then
Get your money back because you were ripped-off. I am a pilot, skydiver, microlight pilot and paraglider pilot (extreme sports), They all use altimeters. Part of the pre-flight inspection on the Cessna trainer involved checking the static air pressure for blockages. The tower would give you QNH readings so you could set your altimeter to ground level air pressure. As you climbed, the air got thinner which correlated with height (pretty accurate). You just set the parachutists altimeter to 0 at ground level (it wasn’t sophisticated). In microlights and paragliders I used a parachutist’s altimeter.
 
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Get your money back because you were ripped-off. I am a pilot, skydiver, microlight pilot and paraglider pilot (extreme sports), They all use altimeters. Part of the pre-flight inspection on the Cessna trainer involved checking the static air pressure for blockages. The tower would give you QNH readings so you could set your altimeter to ground level air pressure. As you climbed, the air got thinner which correlated with height (pretty accurate). You just set the parachutists altimeter to 0 at ground level (it wasn’t sophisticated). In microlights and paragliders I used a parachutist’s altimeter.
Lol maybe you should read what I said.

FOR A PARTICULAR ALTITUDE there is no difference in air pressure between a cold chimney and the air outside.
 
I'll keep this simple for you.

What is making the high pressure air at the bottom of your chimney travel up inside the pipe instead of merely moving up by itself?

Let me give you a hint: it won't. The air is higher pressure precisely because it is lower in altitude and there is lots of air above it.

That is the case both inside and outside the chimney.

There is no mechanism that will encourage air to move up the pipe.
 
We are not building chimneys to 3000 feet...

You are confused about two very different principles.

Yes, the pressure does get less as you increase altitude, but it does not suck up the lower altitude air.
 
Educate yourself on Wikipedia. The 2nd paragraph of the link is relevant.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atmospheric_pressure



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Lol! Wikipedia?
Yes, Altitude causes pressure to decrease.

AT THE SAME RATE INSIDE THE CHIMNEY AS OUTSIDE THE CHIMNEY!

So, again, for any given Altitude, the pressure is the SAME inside and outside the chimney, barring other influences like temperature.
 
Lol! Wikipedia?
Yes, Altitude causes pressure to decrease.

AT THE SAME RATE INSIDE THE CHIMNEY AS OUTSIDE THE CHIMNEY!

So, again, for any given Altitude, the pressure is the SAME inside and outside the chimney, barring other influences like temperature.


Ignore him Sinbad, he probably believes in perpetual motion machines and water from air...
 
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