Amazing CloudFlare BackBone Latency

DStvNothingOn

Expert Member
Joined
May 21, 2011
Messages
1,745
Reaction score
1,729
Location
46°38'13.5"S 37°56'25.6"E
I was reading the below blog post, and thought the below section very interesting.
Wonder if you will get those latency on WARP+

This strategic expansion has not only extended our global reach but has also significantly improved our overall latency. One illustration of this is that since the deployment of our backbone between Lisbon and Johannesburg, we have seen a major performance improvement for users in Johannesburg. Customers benefiting from this improved latency can be, for example, a financial institution running their APIs through us for real-time trading, where milliseconds can impact trades, or our Magic WAN users, where we facilitate site-to-site connectivity between their branch offices.

image10.png

The table above shows an example where we measured the round-trip time (RTT) for an uncached origin fetch, from an end-user in Johannesburg to various origin locations, comparing our backbone and the public Internet. By carrying the origin request over our backbone, as opposed to IP transit or peering, local users in Johannesburg get their content up to 22% faster. By using our own backbone to long-haul the traffic to its final destination, we are in complete control of the path and performance. This improvement in latency varies by location, but consistently demonstrates the superiority of our backbone infrastructure in delivering high performance connectivity.


 
I used WARP at some point and could swear my phone's performance was a bit snapper. Probably all in my mind?
 
I was reading the below blog post, and thought the below section very interesting.
Wonder if you will get those latency on WARP+

This strategic expansion has not only extended our global reach but has also significantly improved our overall latency. One illustration of this is that since the deployment of our backbone between Lisbon and Johannesburg, we have seen a major performance improvement for users in Johannesburg. Customers benefiting from this improved latency can be, for example, a financial institution running their APIs through us for real-time trading, where milliseconds can impact trades, or our Magic WAN users, where we facilitate site-to-site connectivity between their branch offices.

image10.png

The table above shows an example where we measured the round-trip time (RTT) for an uncached origin fetch, from an end-user in Johannesburg to various origin locations, comparing our backbone and the public Internet. By carrying the origin request over our backbone, as opposed to IP transit or peering, local users in Johannesburg get their content up to 22% faster. By using our own backbone to long-haul the traffic to its final destination, we are in complete control of the path and performance. This improvement in latency varies by location, but consistently demonstrates the superiority of our backbone infrastructure in delivering high performance connectivity.


They just using Equiano to Lisbon instead of going to London -> Lisbon.

From CT to Amsterdam is about 149ms so 18ms down from JHB to CT is 167 via WACS
 
Nice that they are using their own Layer 2 between JHB and Lisbon now. I see they are still using the usual Cogent and Work Online transit also so not all traffic is going via Lisbon but from what I tested now most do which is interesting.
 
Nice that they are using their own Layer 2 between JHB and Lisbon now. I see they are still using the usual Cogent and Work Online transit also so not all traffic is going via Lisbon but from what I tested now most do which is interesting.

After testing it for a while it seems they are pushing at least 90%+ of all JHB <> EU and NA traffic via this new Layer 2 backhaul over Equiano mainly JHB <> Lisbon <> Madrid >>> Rest of EU from DE-CIX Madrid and Lisbon.
 
After testing it for a while it seems they are pushing at least 90%+ of all JHB <> EU and NA traffic via this new Layer 2 backhaul over Equiano mainly JHB <> Lisbon <> Madrid >>> Rest of EU from DE-CIX Madrid and Lisbon.

explains why theyre nuking all the referral abuses. have now subscribed to Warp+ Unlimited on my turkish apple ID for $0.04
 
explains why theyre nuking all the referral abuses. have now subscribed to Warp+ Unlimited on my turkish apple ID for $0.04

Yeah I also got that popup saying the referral bonus is ending.
 
Speaking about backbones after we had all these cable breaks Microsoft Azure and Google Cloud has invested and launched extensive routes to the Middle East and India over multiple cables and also now has direct routes from JHB to most of the EU.

You will now see 160ms from JHB to most EU Google and Azure servers.
101ms from JHB to Dubai and 111ms from JHB to Qatar on Google cloud.
130ms from JHB to India on Google and Azure.
 
Looks like CloudFlare might be having some capacity issues in Cape Town.

Not sure if you have perhaps seen the same thing lately @CrypticZA


View attachment 1757207

View attachment 1757206
I don't really ever use Warp any more but turned it on my phone now to check and to the UK I had a 235 ping and a 0.6 download and 70 odd upload so yea looks cooked
 
CloudFlare's international is still struggling from their CPT POP today, I am surprised they havent re-reouted the CPT region.

@cavedog how is warp from JHB looking?

Struggling to get more than 1mbps to CoreIX London.
 
I used WARP at some point and could swear my phone's performance was a bit snapper. Probably all in my mind?
It really all depends on how good/bad your ISP is and whether the Cloudflare routing it replaces is better or not.

If you are far away from major cities you’ll probably find Warp to make it worse as it will jump to the closest node which is a few hundred kilometres away, whereas your ISP will likely route closer.
 
CloudFlare's international is still struggling from their CPT POP today, I am surprised they havent re-reouted the CPT region.

@cavedog how is warp from JHB looking?

Struggling to get more than 1mbps to CoreIX London.

Still good. Most traffic going via their new backbone but looks like coreix is via Cogent but also good.

Screenshot 2024-09-14 162020.png

Screenshot 2024-09-14 162044.png

Screenshot 2024-09-14 161631.png

Screenshot 2024-09-14 162223.png
 
Top
Sign up to the MyBroadband newsletter
X