AMD delays 16-core Ryzen processor

Pretty cool, wonder what Intel has up it's sleeve.. AMD is starting to run away with this.
I`ve always had Intel in my pcs, this might make me consider switching it up next time.
 
AnandTech review:


In summary:

A beast in productivity apps:
For performance, perhaps the obvious that was expected was observed: AMD’s 3950X knocks down walls that only a couple of years ago seemed impenetrable. When compared to its immediate rivals, The Ryzen 9 3950X smashes through several of our tests published here, such as the Photoscan, Blender, Handbrake, and 7-zip, while CineBench R20 and SPEC in our benchmark database also have some strong numbers.

Intel still reigns supreme with single thread performance:
There are some other minor points to note – if we compare single threaded performance, despite AMD’s Zen 2 having a general IPC advantage, the Core i9-9900KS is still running at 5.0 GHz for sustained single threaded work, which is still 7-15% higher than the Ryzen 3950X, and as a result it does pull out ahead in a number of ST tests as well as in low resolution (CPU-bound) gaming. At higher resolution gaming, most of the CPUs in our test perform within a fraction of each other.

Conclusion:
In terms of absolute performance across our benchmark range, the Ryzen 9 3950X has the lead. This metric also puts the 3900X above the 9900KS, because despite the 5.0 GHz all-core on 8-cores, moving to 12-core and 16-core at almost the same performance per core gives more of an advantage in our test suite's MT-heavy workloads. As we move to the more expensive HEDT chips, the 16-core and 18-core from Intel, then even with strong AVX-512 performance, it’s not enough to offset other areas.

For users who want the best without going to the high-end desktop, the Ryzen 9 3950X has the best overall score out of all the chips we’ve ever tested.

If you thought the 3900X didn't have enough power, the 3950X is your answer.
 
AnandTech review:


In summary:

A beast in productivity apps:


Intel still reigns supreme with single thread performance:


Conclusion:
There also seems to be a bit of a binning issue, with some getting way higher/sustained boost clocks compared to others, e.g. gamersnexus and anandtech seem low, while e.g. tomshardware and pual seem to have gotten better chips where the difference for single-threaded is within the 5% margin.

It just smooths out the difference a bit, and you need to take into account the 9900KS either hits 5GHz or sticks within its TDP limits and it costs about $600, so with cheapest mobo around $850 (so that begs the question whether influenced by 9900KS being limited by TDP or unlocked and breaking). The 3950X is $750 (not sure if with taxes?), you can get a good enough motherboard at $200, so $950. If you're spending that much, I don't think you really care about the $100 difference and you'd probably spend more on both motherboards.

And if you have this much cash, you probably have a good GPU, so the couple of fps difference doesn't matter, and most of the 1% lows are higher on the 3950X and it has less frame-time variance.

Either way, for only gaming, for most of us the 9900K or KS or anything above basically a 3800X is overkill, your choice should rather be 9700 vs 3700X where I'd personally prefer the latter. If you're going above that productivity is usually included, so 3950X should generally be the better buy.


Also, I don't think AMD is going to put a lot of these up for sale, nor will they have a lot of thread rippers, they can probably sell most of their stuff as Epyc CPU and make way more money as their chiplet design allows a lot of leeway for non-perfect wafers, the 3950X is the only chip in the 3000 series that actually has all cores in all CCX enabled. Intel also won't sell a lot of 9900KS, there's a lot of binning involved, supposedly stocks won't be replenished after christmas.
 
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This chip looks Epyc!

Thinking of upgrading my 8700K to this.


 
This chip looks Epyc!

Thinking of upgrading my 8700K to this.
You're wanting to upgrade to a ~R15k CPU from a R6k one? What changed in your workload in <1.5y or do you have that much money to burn? :p
 
Serious question. Another major security flaw was announced today/yesterday that affects the Intel CPU's. This is now the 4th or 5th major security vulnerability to hit Intel. There are fixes that are implemented by Intel and Microsoft, but each fix adds a small performance penalty.

Have the Intel systems that are compared to the AMD systems been patched?
Surely to get the best real world results, they should be patched.
 
You're wanting to upgrade to a ~R15k CPU from a R6k one? What changed in your workload in <1.5y or do you have that much money to burn? :p

I do heavy video rendering workloads, but also like to smash a game or two when time permits. Overclocked the 8700k to 5GHz, so performance is great. Been wanting to upgrade my GTX 1060 6GB OC card to a RTX 2070 Super, but then saw this CPU and got compulsive upgrade disorder twitches. :love:

Will probably only upgrade to the 2070 Super and put the system upgrade on hold for another year or two...
 
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