AMD vs Intel CPU comparison

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Intel versus AMD processor showdown

While Intel is the world's biggest CPU manufacturer, it has had its work cut out for it, with AMD's market share gradually increasing since the third quarter of 2016 as it out-innovated the chip giant in its newer generation of processors.

As the dominant players in the central processing unit (CPU) market, AMD and Intel compete for market share in South Africa and internationally.
 
All Media, please stop using benchmark aggregators like nanoreview, or userbenchmarks. They are terrible.

You are much better off referencing data from someone who does actual controlled benchmarks with data that can be user interpreted, not some arbitrary x out of 100 score:
www.techpowerup.com

AMD Ryzen 7 5700X Review - Finally an Affordable 8-Core

With the Ryzen 7 5700X, AMD is finally offering a more affordable 8-core processor. In our review, we take a close look at how this $265 CPU performs against the Ryzen 7 5800X, and also compare it to Intel's Alder Lake lineup, including the i5-12600K and i7-12700K.
www.techpowerup.com www.techpowerup.com

Remember everyone, find the benchmarks that most closely matches what you will be using it for. Synthetic or aggregate benchmarks are not good for basing buying decisions on.

also, your prices are a little out 5800X3D is R8300 not R10k+

Also worth noting that Ryzen CPU's under the 5600, have significantly lower performance per clock. They are a different CPU die, closer in performance to the previous gen Zen2. They also have significant PCIe limitations.

Lastly, Intel CPU's at the high end, require significantly more expensive cooling compared to AMD. Usually double.
 
Ryzen CPUs with the “G” suffix feature integrated graphics, while Intel processors with the “F” suffix exclude integrated graphics.
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@Jan. Correction to the article above.
 
The 5800X3D is not the "top-of-the-line" Ryzen 5000 chip. It's not even the second-fastest one. Gaming performance, sure. That's what it's marketed as being good at. But if you're going to compare apples to apples across the board, it should be i9-12900k vs Ryzen 9 5950X, which doesn't even feature on the chart.
 
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Sapphiron said:
All Media, please stop using benchmark aggregators like nanoreview, or userbenchmarks. They are terrible.

You are much better off referencing data from someone who does actual controlled benchmarks with data that can be user interpreted, not some arbitrary x out of 100 score:
www.techpowerup.com

AMD Ryzen 7 5700X Review - Finally an Affordable 8-Core

With the Ryzen 7 5700X, AMD is finally offering a more affordable 8-core processor. In our review, we take a close look at how this $265 CPU performs against the Ryzen 7 5800X, and also compare it to Intel's Alder Lake lineup, including the i5-12600K and i7-12700K.
www.techpowerup.com www.techpowerup.com

Remember everyone, find the benchmarks that most closely matches what you will be using it for. Synthetic or aggregate benchmarks are not good for basing buying decisions on.

also, your prices are a little out 5800X3D is R8300 not R10k+

Also worth noting that Ryzen CPU's under the 5600, have significantly lower performance per clock. They are a different CPU die, closer in performance to the previous gen Zen2. They also have significant PCIe limitations.

Lastly, Intel CPU's at the high end, require significantly more expensive cooling compared to AMD. Usually double.
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^This exactly. Sure AMD can easily outperform Intel if they upped their TDP to something stupid like 150W. Think they have done this in the past IIRC with Excavator. Remember also, that TDP is merely a suggestion and so Intel has another advantage over AMD. It doubles as a heater.
 
Herr_Koos said:
The 5800X3D is not the "top-of-the-line" Ryzen 5000 chip. It's not even the second-fastest one. Gaming performance, sure. That's what it's marketed as being good at. But if you're going to compare apples to apples across the board, it should be i9-12900k vs Ryzen 9 5950X, which doesn't even feature on the chart.
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Yes, Intel-bias has been around for ages. Pays well apparently.
 
What a strange article.
Comparing a "Gaming Focused" CPU (5800X3D) to a "Productivity Focused" CPU (12900KS) by using a set of Productivity metric benchmarks to claim that the Middle of the Pack AMD CPU is slower at Productivity tasks than the absolutely highest end available Intel CPU.

Well yea. The 12900KS is a R15000 CPU and the 5800X3D is a R8300 CPU.

Who compares such things?

That's like comparing a 18 Wheeler vs a Hot Hatch at hauling freight and saying the Hot Hatch is terrible at hauling freight ergo the 18 Wheeler is the overall better vehicle for everyone regardless of actual usage and individual needs.

Terrible article. As anti-AMD biassed as UserBenchMark. and that is saying a lot.
 
EffKay said:
Well yea. The 12900KS is a R15000 CPU and the 5800X3D is a R8300 CPU.

Who compares such things?
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I have always argued that price should be the only determining factor for selecting product comparisons.

The 5800X3D should be compared with 12700 non K. Since the AMD boards and cooling tends to be cheaper, they end up around the same price.

I would also try to do the price comparison as a Board+Cooling+CPU combo. If the RAM is not the same, you need to add that to the mix as well. Since each person might need different things in a motherboard, it will differ slightly for each person.

Another consideration is upgrade path. AMD has traditionally done very well in supporting a socket for a long time. Intel has been terrible in comparison.

There are people buying 5800X3D CPU's now and installing it in their 1st gen AM4 Ryzen board from 5 years ago. They are getting extremely close (within 2-3%) of the performance of a modern board. That's a ton of money saved across two PC's.

Right now its not a good time to buy an AMD AM4 board for upgradability as AM5 is coming very soon, but if you compare a 3-6 year roadmap of upgrade options, buying Intel 13th gen or AMD AM5 at the end of the year, its not even close in price. You will spend at least double the amount to upgrade your Intel PC compared to an AMD one.
 
Sapphiron said:
I would also try to do the price comparison as a Board+Cooling+CPU combo. If the RAM is not the same, you need to add that to the mix as well. Since each person might need different things in a motherboard, it will differ slightly for each person.
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Here Intel again has an advantage; using DDR5 vs DDR4 for the X3D.
It's long been known that Zen-based CPU's favour faster RAM so I'd expect the Zen4 "3D" to be an absolute stonker.
I suspect Intel engineers are having more than just a few sleepless nights.
 
SubtleBeast said:
Here Intel again has an advantage; using DDR5 vs DDR4 for the X3D.
It's long been known that Zen-based CPU's favour faster RAM so I'd expect the Zen4 "3D" to be an absolute stonker.
I suspect Intel engineers are having more than just a few sleepless nights.
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Don't worry, they can always push the CPUs to 300W or 350W, lol.

AMD is introducing their first new IO Die on Zen 4, so there is some uncertainty there. It's on "better" TSMC silicon, so it should be good in theory. A lot depends on how well they have integrated the new DDR5 features into the Memory controller.
 
Sapphiron said:
Don't worry, they can always push the CPUs to 300W or 350W, lol.

AMD is introducing their first new IO Die on Zen 4, so there is some uncertainty there. It's on "better" TSMC silicon, so it should be good in theory. A lot depends on how well they have integrated the new DDR5 features into the Memory controller.
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Sure they might have some teething problems, but it shouldn't be as bad as the start of the Zen journey. AMD has some pretty good engineers working on Zen.
 
The M1 CPU is made using dark magic, I don't understand how this thing is so power efficient.

I'm going to sell it, it's demonic.
 
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