ANC debates having units at work places

Bullvein said:
Calling a public figure an old fart is the closest I got to insulting any of your holy cows, it is a fact that he is old and farts as everyone does and the rest is well known facts among the not so gullible citizens of this free democratic country, if the mods or anyone have issue with me speaking my mind I welcome their input, but I believe you are just uncomfortable or unfamiliar with the truth and someone willing to speak it.

As stated before, I have no regard for Mandela and the anc, nor do I have any for the National party and their policies of old, nor the new ones they are developing from within and in conjunction with the anc, I'm just stating facts and I'm really sorry if you find them inconvenient, but that is between you and your conscience.
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Are you a DA supporter?
 
Fudzy said:
Are you a DA supporter?
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I vote for the lesser of the evils yes, out of necessity.
I'm no fan of any politician though, but there is no way I can vote for the anc, ever, not with their history, track record and their fan base.

Why do you ask, wanna come join me next election, I'll supply the chips, shouldered or not, I know where to get them cheap. :)
 
Bullvein said:
I vote for the lesser of the evils yes, out of necessity.
I'm no fan of any politician though, but there is no way I can vote for the anc, ever, not with their history, track record and their fan base.

Why do you ask, wanna come join me next election, I'll supply the chips, shouldered or not, I know where to get them cheap. :)
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I've voted for them since I was old enough to do so.
 
Fudzy said:
I've voted for them since I was old enough to do so.
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Good, they need every vote against the tide of fail.

May I ask whats up with the hero worship for the anc then?

I can understand that the media puts out a distorted view of the struggle and it's heroes but you seem too rational and well educated to fall for such blatant propaganda.

Believing in a distorted history made up in the cold war by people that followed a failed ideology even though you don't support a party isn't logical, especially since the truth is well documented, even corroborated by the same people that propagate the lies today, I just don't get it.

I don't know you, but don't you find it strange that almost everyone here old enough to have lived through the real apartheid years disagrees with the anc supporters except the anc supporters themselves ?

Apartheid happened, it was awful and wrong and it hurt and killed, but it is not enough of a reason to continue killing and stealing to this day, nothing is.

The Jews aren't running around Germany killing Germans in their sleep on farms and they sure had it rougher than here and I'm not diminishing what happened here, I'm just stating a fact.
The Afrikaners suffered devastation and ruin in the Boerwars, but the only time most wish the British harm today is during the world cup.

Frankly the anc is banking and depending on everyone hating one another and keeping their electorate ignorant, because they know without that they are lost, they have nothing, especially their distorted history to fall back on once we start to speak and listen to one another without their filter active.

The global media helped drive a wedge between us for profit, the superpowers for power and ideology and the politicians for all of the above. I won't lie to myself or anyone else to let that go on and I hope neither will you and anyone reading this.

Thank you for reading this far if you did, if you didn't go suck a lemon, but you won't know I said that so nja nja :)
 
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OrbitalDawn said:
In my experience, lots of people on here who get accused of worshiping the ANC actually also dislike them very much. The real ANC apologists are few, and they disappear quickly when the questions get tough, as you'd expect. :p
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This, and a few use it as a retort which would be have been 'k lover' has it been the 80s.
 
Fudzy said:
This, and a few use it as a retort which would be have been 'k lover' has it been the 80s.
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It's ironic how the attackers claim to at the very least vote DA. If I am an ANC supporter then they are khakhi-clad-comb-in-the-sock-swastika-tattooed AWB members. Using the logic they use to label us ANC members & racists.
 
R13... said:
It's ironic how the attackers claim to at the very least vote DA. If I am an ANC supporter then they are khakhi-clad-comb-in-the-sock-swastika-tattooed AWB members. Using the logic they use to label us ANC members & racists.
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So would you like a "unit" in your workplace?
 
Fudzy said:
This, and a few use it as a retort which would be have been 'k lover' has it been the 80s.
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Yep. Sadly there's a lot of "Us and them" mentalities floating around.

I wonder if nationalism will ever make its way back into mainstream politics? At the moment it's the preserve of a couple of fringe lunatics.
 
empirex said:
Why bring Mandela into this?? He's a very old man now (think frail grandpa) -- why must he forever hold the burden of righteousness in SA. No, others need to follow his lead, if they do not, that is not his fault. It's ridiculous to suggest otherwise.
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And FW isn't a grandad?
 
MickeyD said:
'cos it's the topic we are meant to be posting about in this thread?
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They're discussing it, and there are a lot of entitled nutters in the ANC. I don't even think such an idea would be legal, that would give every political party the right to have a "unit" in the work place. And what would be the purpose of such units? Too lacking in detail this article is. The reporter is a lazy **** who shouldn't have gone quote mining for sensation.
 
R13... said:
They're discussing it, and there are a lot of entitled nutters in the ANC. I don't even think such an idea would be legal, that would give every political party the right to have a "unit" in the work place. And what would be the purpose of such units? Too lacking in detail this article is. The reporter is a lazy **** who shouldn't have gone quote mining for sensation.
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My thoughts exactly. Unconstitutional.
 
The ANC is a failed party clinging to failed ideology while introducing failed policies.
 
R13... said:
They're discussing it, and there are a lot of entitled nutters in the ANC. I don't even think such an idea would be legal, that would give every political party the right to have a "unit" in the work place. And what would be the purpose of such units? Too lacking in detail this article is. The reporter is a lazy **** who shouldn't have gone quote mining for sensation.
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The problem is that when the anc "discusses" things, they try to push it through parliament before that discussion is done and they realize that it is unconstitutional, morally wrong and the rest of the things I could list that the anc wouldn't even understand.

Then when all hell breaks loose and there's court cases costing millions of taxpayers money, the so called struggle heroes are silent again or they actually endorse the anc standpoint blindly like their masters ordered the old dogs to.

They might have been shining lights in the darkest of dark nights once (media made, you know my stance) but now they are the bucket over the last candle in the cupboard, because they don't oppose the lunatics running the anc and this country into the ground.

One statement, stating what the anc of old stood for to the press by a few of these old dogs would give the voting populous a reason to oppose the neo-comunist scum running our country to ruin.
I'm not saying the vote buying with a t-shirt and a bucket of kfc won't still be an issue, nor the fear for the necklace the older voters still find themselves in, but at least it would give young educated people the freedom to break away from the anc mindset and to become firstly individuals that know accountability and responsibility and then future leaders in a real democracy not this democrazy we have now.
 
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