ANC warns Mbeki - report

actually I think the ANC is kind of tired of Mbeki's sulking. He refuses to attend their meetings, refuses to deliver on their requests and now they're trying to get him to start working with them. So the ball is in his court. Either he starts delivering or (quite rightly), he ****s off.
 
I suggest that all those who posted that the new ANC regime is ANC only and not government should post their explanations here. As stated above, and so it begins ....
 
kingmonty said:
actually I think the ANC is kind of tired of Mbeki's sulking. He refuses to attend their meetings, refuses to deliver on their requests and now they're trying to get him to start working with them. So the ball is in his court. Either he starts delivering or (quite rightly), he ****s off.
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I share your sentiment ... whilst we are sitting here with a power crisis he is laughing and hob-nobbing with Mugabe. When there is a problem in your country that is where you need to be and if you are outside the country you need to skedaddle back and address the people with a plan of action.
 
Cara said:
I share your sentiment ... whilst we are sitting here with a power crisis he is laughing and hob-nobbing with Mugabe. When there is a problem in your country that is where you need to be and if you are outside the country you need to skedaddle back and address the people with a plan of action.
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Cara, Cara, we are in Africa, how can you expect anything better than the international norm. Here they get away with everything and will still be elected No Matter What! Look at Mugabe, does he care a damn?
 
Cara said:
I share your sentiment ... whilst we are sitting here with a power crisis he is laughing and hob-nobbing with Mugabe. When there is a problem in your country that is where you need to be and if you are outside the country you need to skedaddle back and address the people with a plan of action.
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I wonder if Thabo knows where South Africa is? :p
 
marine1 said:
Yes ice cream sales are going to triple:rolleyes:
And maybe some South Africans are going to admit they are brain dead
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well clearly you cannot actually express why the article is bad news - so please enlighten us 'brain dead' people what the problem with the article is?

explain to me in detail what the political repercussions are, economic repercussions are and how it will affect our life and country in the next 2 years since you seem to be on this grand pedestal of enlightened intelligence and all knowing truths?
 
The reason why Mbeki has not been taking the ANC NEC seriously is probably becuase they can't do much to stop him. Hence their desire to have Motlhanthe in the Executive of the country.

What they gonna do? Dismiss him as a party member? Then what? He remains the President of the country, and to get him out they would need a vote of no confidence from the cabinet. Most of which is made up of the "Mbeki camp", and seeing as though they were left out in the cold when the NEC and NWC were being elected. I would imagine their party loyalty is running a bit low right now.
 
halicon said:
uh huh another one. and what is your opinion on why the news is bad news for the country since you also seem to belong to the league of highly enlightened and intelligent beings who seem to only look down from a high horse?
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if you wish to judge me as someone who looks down on things, so be it. I do admit that what I said was said quite strongly. My reason for this? I'm fed up. And I'm not saying the news is bad for the country, I meant my remark as that the people who put the ANC in power are not useless to the ANC yet. As long as those people do not yet see that all the ANC and it's leaders are doing are things detrimental to them, and also not delivering on their promises, so long shall they stay without power (figurative, not meaning as relating to eskom) and without much hope for improvement.

All I'm saying is, I hope the people in this country who are being negatively influenced by a misled few, I hope for them that things here get better.
 
Fudzy said:
Snap, noADSL, check your links before you post please.
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No error in my link I just clicked on it and it worked?
http://www.24.com/news/?p=tsa&i=817825

You are not the first complaining, there is something stuck on the net. I traced it to maybe a site called www.sawindows.com. A software utility I have stated it was waiting for a response or whwtever from the above site? :confused

Here is the quote:
South AfricaANC warns Mbeki - report2008-1-20 10:05Johannesburg - The ANC has laid down the law to President Thabo Mbeki following two days of discussions between its National Executive Committee (NEC) and the cabinet, the Sunday Times reported.
Behind the scenes, the ANC was moving to get Mbeki to appoint party deputy president Kgalema Motlanthe as a second deputy president in government, the newspaper said.

"The move would give the ANC direct access to state power and ease differences between the government and ruling party."

At the NEC lekgotla, the first attended by Mbeki since he and most of his ministers were removed from the leadership of the ANC in December last year, it was made clear to him that he must regularly attend NEC meetings to account for how the government is implementing ANC policy, the Sunday Times said.

"If he is failing to honour that obligation, we have no choice but to dismiss him," one NEC member reportedly said.

The NEC was also planning to deploy cabinet ministers to 20 ANC subcommittees dealing with various policies, the newspaper reported.

It was also made clear to SA's president that the investigations unit of the National Prosecuting Authority, the Scorpions, must be incorporated into the police by June.

'The presidency is very important...'

It was also put to Mbeki that the court system must be restructured before he leaves office. One of the main aims is to make the Constitutional Court the final court of appeal on all matters, the report said.

NEC members said Justice Minister Brigitte Mabandla would have to table the Superior Courts Bill urgently - it was withdrawn from Parliament at the request of Mbeki pending consultation with judges.

During the lekgotla, which started on Friday, several NEC members said they would like Motlanthe to be elevated to the deputy presidency.

The plan has the backing of supporters of both Mbeki and Zuma, the Sunday Times said.

An NEC member explained that Mbeki's presidency would have to be restructured to ensure that the top six leaders of the ANC were represented in the executive of the country.

"At the moment the top six are only represented at the leadership of Parliament. (ANC national chairperson Baleka Mbete is National Assembly speaker.) We want (the top six) to also be reflected in the presidency."

"The presidency is very important because Mbeki has made it very powerful. If you appoint (Motlanthe) as the country's deputy president, then he can prevail and create a balance."

A better option

Motlanthe has previously played down the possibility that he could be deployed in government but ANC secretary-general Gwede Mantashe had said that the party would appoint his predecessor to a role where it could extract value from his experience.

Mbeki's supporters are hoping that Motlanthe's elevation to the deputy presidency could put him in a good position to succeed Mbeki as president of SA, the report said.

"They view him as a better option than Zuma, who may fall out of the race if he is found guilty of corruption."

However, a Zuma supporter in the NEC told the Sunday Times: "Such a move (Motlanthe's pending appointment) does not threaten us at all. The Limpopo conference made it clear that we would like Motlanthe to be the deputy of the party." "But one thing must be clear: there are no ifs and buts about Zuma being Mbeki's successor as the country's president."

On Saturday Mbeki led a delegation from his cabinet to the NEC lekgotla, where they delivered reports on the government's progress in improving the living standards of South Africans.

He had skipped Zuma's inaugural ANC policy address. He had also skipped the NEC meeting where the new ANC National Working Committee - which oversees the day-to-day running of the organisation - was elected.

The NEC meeting ends on Sunday.
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