Android Chowing Data?

VernD said:
Now how did I just know that this was you - couldn't see the poster's name was obscured.

This is an S2 thread; what's your Moto-crazy @ss doing in here anyway? :p

Oh, ICS FTW btw!!!! :D
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u on ICS already? lucky boy!
 
ocleroux said:
Well, for those that uses ICS, Onavo has a app that will compress your data too, not just monitor it. It is called Onavo Extend. It says it can compress it by up to 80%. Maybe give it a go.

I just checked my bundle...and I have only used 184 megs so far this month...and I have my sync on etc. I only use WhatsApp, Gmail (Gmail App) and now and again will browse a site or two if I am not on my laptop.

Then again...I am using the bestest phone in the world...the RAZR....just saying hehe :p
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Wow, thats what I'm trying to go for! Will have a look at the Entended version then!
 
I have never limited anything on my phone and never experience such problems, facebook and such I don't set to auto refresh, push mail only uses data when mails come through so the phone must be setup for pop mail as that checks periodically and will use data on EVERY check.

I leave all my apps to the WWW, whatsapp, viber, gmail. Just stupid things like facebook which have no logical reason for updating while I am not looking at it are all set to manual or launch updating. I use maybe 50mb per month in data, on wifi about 70% - 80% of the time.

Only thing I never do is update apps over data and the new play store has the only check and only update on wifi options (may of been present before, never saw it).
 
CranialBlaze said:
I have never limited anything on my phone and never experience such problems, facebook and such I don't set to auto refresh, push mail only uses data when mails come through so the phone must be setup for pop mail as that checks periodically and will use data on EVERY check.

I leave all my apps to the WWW, whatsapp, viber, gmail. Just stupid things like facebook which have no logical reason for updating while I am not looking at it are all set to manual or launch updating. I use maybe 50mb per month in data, on wifi about 70% - 80% of the time.

Only thing I never do is update apps over data and the new play store has the only check and only update on wifi options (may of been present before, never saw it).
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^This.

After updating to ICS, my phone seems to be managing this itself. It switches off the WiFi and data in idle - a case of using it only when you're actively using the phone.
 
Ok I am back, sorry for that.

Let me explain, you problem is most probably E Mail related, or more so attachments. Reason for this lies in the whole Ascii vs. Binary issue. Normal POP3 & IMAP uses ASCII to store and transfer Data and this causes the files to grow compared to seeing the file size on the hardrive.

What normally works best is to keep the data in binary when you transfer it from a server to your mobile device, and this can be done in 2 ways. 1 Using Exchange Active Sync and the other is to use Gmail push services.

I don't know how your set-up is at work but if you dont have access to Exchange Active Sync and need to pop your mail best is to look at Mail Fetcher from Google. This will POP your mail and then push it to your phone in binary, using less data than you POPing the server direct.

ASCII vs binary
An ASCII file is a binary file that consists of ASCII characters. ASCII characters are 7-bit encodings stored in a byte. Thus, each byte of an ASCII file has its most significant bit set to 0. Think of an ASCII file as a special kind of binary file.

A generic binary file uses all 8-bits. Each byte of a binary file can have the full 256 bitstring patterns (as opposed to an ASCII file which only has 128 bitstring patterns).
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Oh and if you use the Gmail option dont forget to set your custom from address
 
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Elimentals said:
Ok I am back, sorry for that.

Let me explain, you problem is most probably E Mail related, or more so attachments. Reason for this lies in the whole Ascii vs. Binary issue. Normal POP3 & IMAP uses ASCII to store and transfer Data and this causes the files to grow compared to seeing the file size on the hardrive.

What normally works best is to keep the data in binary when you transfer it from a server to your mobile device, and this can be done in 2 ways. 1 Using Exchange Active Sync and the other is to use Gmail push services.

I don't know how your set-up is at work but if you dont have access to Exchange Active Sync and need to pop your mail best is to look at Mail Fetcher from Google. This will POP your mail and then push it to your phone in binary, using less data than you POPing the server direct.



Oh and if you use the Gmail option dont forget to set your custom from address
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Ok that makes sense. So in a nut shell, I should use GMail to fetch the emails from the other 2 accounts, then use GMail as my central email, making the phone only fetch from GMail?

Also, I downloaded K9 Mail, but for some reason I keep getting "Incorrect username and/or password" when setting up an account. I know they're not wrong, as I just logged in using the exact same username and password...
 
Sysem said:
Ok that makes sense. So in a nut shell, I should use GMail to fetch the emails from the other 2 accounts, then use GMail as my central email, making the phone only fetch from GMail?

Also, I downloaded K9 Mail, but for some reason I keep getting "Incorrect username and/or password" when setting up an account. I know they're not wrong, as I just logged in using the exact same username and password...
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For reasons pointed out above, unless they use some way of compressing the data, you not really solving your problem. In short, I would advice using either Exchange Active Sync or GMail, which ever one you have access to.
 
Elimentals said:
For reasons pointed out above, unless they use some way of compressing the data, you not really solving your problem. In short, I would advice using either Exchange Active Sync or GMail, which ever one you have access to.
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OK thanks.

On the compressing data side, if my email on the server is listed as 20kb, when I download the mail on my phone, it downloads more than 20kb is what you're saying?
 
Sysem said:
OK thanks.

On the compressing data side, if my email on the server is listed as 20kb, when I download the mail on my phone, it downloads more than 20kb is what you're saying?
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When it contains binary attachments yes. Ie: pictures and other, also when you use ritch text instead of plain text or HTML.

Also dont forget the 3 big rules on POP
1: Make sure you leave a copy, not delete on POP
2: Make sure the 1st sync is done via WiFi else you going to eat up Data as it will sync all mail unless you say new only.
3: Make sure you use the correct send from address.
 
VernD said:
^This.

After updating to ICS, my phone seems to be managing this itself. It switches off the WiFi and data in idle - a case of using it only when you're actively using the phone.
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Doesn't turn off the wifi, at least on my phone, just switches it to low power, just strong enough to keep it active. Plus sides of having a kernel with a functioning deep idle state.
Instead of turning everything off or knocking it down a peg it manages power, essentials like data and cpu go into low power mode, only non-essentials get turned off. Would be absolutely daft to fully disable the internet access every time you turn off your screen, will use more power turning it back on, not to mention what good is an offline push device.
 
Sysem said:
Also, I downloaded K9 Mail, but for some reason I keep getting "Incorrect username and/or password" when setting up an account. I know they're not wrong, as I just logged in using the exact same username and password...
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have you tried your username as the full email address or vice versa. eg [email protected] or milomak as the username.
 
Seem to have it under control! Gmail and K9 Mail both using a LOT less data than the stock email app. Thanks guys!
 
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