Another which car thread...

pinball wizard said:
My current car (which I'll keep) is a peugeot which is out of motorplan. Before that I had a Megane for 11 years, so.... My ex drives the same Clio I posted, same year and everything, just the Expression, not the Dynamique, never a heartbeat of a problem. I did have the DS3 for a while as well, no motorplan. I toasted the clutch good and proper though that was a consequence of beating it a bit hard.
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You seem to have had good luck with cars thus far. If you really want to pick one if the French options, go for the one with the most complete service history.

If the Jazz is too expensive, why not look at a TT?
 
Tman* said:
You seem to have had good luck with cars thus far. If you really want to pick one if the French options, go for the one with the most complete service history.

If the Jazz is too expensive, why not look at a TT?
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I like that advice.

TT? I see the cheapest one I can find is R80k?
 
What about this?

www.autotrader.co.za

Ford Fiesta 1.6 Rsi 3-Door for sale in Randburg - ID: 25436296

Used 2001 Ford Fiesta 1.6 Rsi 3-Door For Sale - R 29 000 - ID: 25436296
www.autotrader.co.za
Looks like its in mint condition.

www.autotrader.co.za

Ford Fiesta Flite 3-Door for sale in Randburg - ID: 25436314

Used 2001 Ford Fiesta Flite 3-Door For Sale - R 29 000 - ID: 25436314
www.autotrader.co.za

www.autotrader.co.za

Ford Fiesta 1.6 Rsi 3-Door for sale in Centurion - ID: 25435596

Used 2002 Ford Fiesta 1.6 Rsi 3-Door For Sale - R 25 000 - ID: 25435596
www.autotrader.co.za
 
pinball wizard said:
I like that advice.

TT? I see the cheapest one I can find is R80k?
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You could get a conquest tazz for around 30k. It's a good reliable car that's cheap to run, but most of them have absolutely no kit. Everything is manual. You do get the odd one with aircon. If you not interested in that stuff and just need to get from A-B then it's a good option.
 
WesleyDB said:
You could get a conquest tazz for around 30k. It's a good reliable car that's cheap to run, but most of them have absolutely no kit. Everything is manual. You do get the odd one with aircon. If you not interested in that stuff and just need to get from A-B then it's a good option.
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The manual steering is also not fun.
 
thechamp said:
What about this?

www.autotrader.co.za

Ford Fiesta 1.6 Rsi 3-Door for sale in Randburg - ID: 25436296

Used 2001 Ford Fiesta 1.6 Rsi 3-Door For Sale - R 29 000 - ID: 25436296
www.autotrader.co.za
Looks like its in mint condition.

www.autotrader.co.za

Ford Fiesta Flite 3-Door for sale in Randburg - ID: 25436314

Used 2001 Ford Fiesta Flite 3-Door For Sale - R 29 000 - ID: 25436314
www.autotrader.co.za

www.autotrader.co.za

Ford Fiesta 1.6 Rsi 3-Door for sale in Centurion - ID: 25435596

Used 2002 Ford Fiesta 1.6 Rsi 3-Door For Sale - R 25 000 - ID: 25435596
www.autotrader.co.za
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Saw those. Definitely worth a drive.
 
WesleyDB said:
You could get a conquest tazz for around 30k. It's a good reliable car that's cheap to run, but most of them have absolutely no kit. Everything is manual. You do get the odd one with aircon. If you not interested in that stuff and just need to get from A-B then it's a good option.
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thechamp said:
The manual steering is also not fun.
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I'm looking for a daily runabout. I will definitely only consider aircon and power steering. Which is sort of why the Citroen/Renault appeal to me, has the kit I need/want for daily use.
 
pinball wizard said:
Saw those. Definitely worth a drive.
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That's not badly priced, had a friend who had the same one in white. Nice little cars, only reason he doesn't have it anymore is it was stolen.
Though those seats would need a deep, deep clean.
 
Lupus said:
That's not badly priced, had a friend who had the same one in white. Nice little cars, only reason he doesn't have it anymore is it was stolen.
Though those seats would need a deep, deep clean.
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Before my ex got the Clio she had the 3door RSi. Wasn't bad.
 
pinball wizard said:
My current car (which I'll keep) is a peugeot which is out of motorplan. Before that I had a Megane for 11 years, so.... My ex drives the same Clio I posted, same year and everything, just the Expression, not the Dynamique, never a heartbeat of a problem. I did have the DS3 for a while as well, no motorplan. I toasted the clutch good and proper though that was a consequence of beating it a bit hard.
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I remember, if I’m not mistaken I think my brother sold you the Peugeot. Red one?
 
pinball wizard said:
I'm looking for a daily runabout. I will definitely only consider aircon and power steering. Which is sort of why the Citroen/Renault appeal to me, has the kit I need/want for daily use.
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The Citroen or Renault would be the obvious choice when it comes to standard kit, I still don't understand if there's anything particularly different about a standard 1.4l French motor or if we just fear the unknown, but I am happy not to find out.
 
thechamp said:
The Citroen or Renault would be the obvious choice when it comes to standard kit, I still don't understand if there's anything particularly different about a standard 1.4l French motor or if we just fear the unknown, but I am happy not to find out.
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I don't get the fear on French cars, out of the people I've known over the years I've only seen two have issues. One was a Renault Laguna and the other was an old shape Clio, but the issue on the Clio wasn't expensive to fix, the Laguna on the other hand.
I've known people with old Peugots that may leak a little oil after 20 years but it's still rocking, a few Citroen owners who never had any real issues.
I've seen more people with VWs with issues than French cars, and VW isn't cheap, unless it's the Mk1
 
Though the only really bullet proof cars, I've known is a Tazz, Camry and an Uno that is falling to bits but the motor keeps on a ticking.
 
Based on the following, i'd suggest look for a good deal with decent service history, then give it a proper AA check and let the dealer sort it out for you:

Implied 6 month warranty.
(Note how frequently the word "reasonable" is used in the Act. It is important to understand that the Act was written with the intention of it being applied within reason to all parties)

The CPA requires the seller to stand good for the reasonable durability of the vehicle for a period of 6 months. This is an implied warranty on defects. It is important to understand the difference between wear and tear and defects. Tyres, exhausts, brakes, clutch, etc, would be wear and tear, whereas a gear suddenly jumping out would be a defect. There is no mention of a mileage limitation. However, again, there are several clauses preventing abuse of this protection. It excludes wear and tear and normal maintenance; as well as misuse or negligence. It also specifies the word “defects”. This implies that the fault should have been (wittingly/or unwittingly) present in the vehicle at the time of delivery.

The buyer will need to provide proof to the dealer/finance house/Ombudsman of such defect. This is going to be costly and time consuming. The main beneficiaries will no doubt be the legal profession. Many dealers will not sell a car to you, without you purchasing one of the extended warranty products available on the market. It is also important to note that the Act does not require a seller of second hand/used goods to supply those goods with a written warranty.

And if the above applies only to financed cars, use your cash budget as an 80-90% deposit, and finance the rest.
 
Lupus said:
I don't get the fear on French cars, out of the people I've known over the years I've only seen two have issues. One was a Renault Laguna and the other was an old shape Clio, but the issue on the Clio wasn't expensive to fix, the Laguna on the other hand.
I've known people with old Peugots that may leak a little oil after 20 years but it's still rocking, a few Citroen owners who never had any real issues.
I've seen more people with VWs with issues than French cars, and VW isn't cheap, unless it's the Mk1
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I can deal with almost anything on a car, my greatest fear is some baffling electronics problem that even the dealer cannot figure out. That unfortunately seems to be the speciality of the earlier French cars. I just hate anything I don't understand causing me issues in a car, even if I cannot fix it myself I would at least like to understand what is happening.

It could just be that my fears are irrational, they are after all based on stories I have heard. My younger bro go himself a nice 5008, it still pulls along nicely, the only thing he had to deal with was some highly specialized globes that only Peugeot has costing R600 each.
 
thechamp said:
I can deal with almost anything on a car, my greatest fear is some baffling electronics problem that even the dealer cannot figure out. That unfortunately seems to be the speciality of the earlier French cars. I just hate anything I don't understand causing me issues in a car, even if I cannot fix it myself I would at least like to understand what is happening.

It could just be that my fears are irrational, they are after all based on stories I have heard. My younger bro go himself a nice 5008, it still pulls along nicely, the only thing he had to deal with was some highly specialized globes that only Peugeot has costing R600 each.
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Try getting the rear windscreen wiper from VW, as it's an odd size and places like Midas don't have it and you can't get a normal one to fit. R500 back in 2009, Audi specialised light bulbs R2000 each cause the Xenon.
 
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