Anyone else using Storm?

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I use Storm (http://www.stormnet.co.za) for ISDN dialup alongside an ADSL connection, primarily because of their excllent international latency.

For the past year - via Storm - I have always had pings in the 200ms range to both the UK and USA. Over the last few weeks however, something seems to have changed with their traffic routing, with pings now closer to the 400ms range. Anyone know anything about this? A Storm employee, maybe [:)]?

Traces below (both used to be in the region of 270 (USA) and 200 (UK)

Tracing route to york.boston.sierra.com [198.74.32.36]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

1 33 ms 30 ms 29 ms pm3dial.ct.stormnet.co.za [196.22.220.114]
2 30 ms 31 ms 30 ms ct3640.ct.stormnet.co.za [196.22.220.1]
3 40 ms 34 ms 34 ms cbs-access1-wan.wc.saix.net [196.25.3.197]
4 199 ms 184 ms 191 ms london-dir-telecity-pos-8-0-0.telkom-ipnet.co.za [196.43.9.50]
5 361 ms 359 ms 359 ms newyork-dir-telia-pos-8-0-0.telkom-ipnet.co.za [196.43.9.54]
6 360 ms 365 ms 372 ms nyk-i3-geth3-2.telia.net [213.248.82.237]
7 359 ms 361 ms 359 ms nyk-bb2-geth1-3-1.telia.net [213.248.82.149]
8 365 ms 365 ms 365 ms telia-gw.n54ny.ip.att.net [192.205.32.49]
9 382 ms 376 ms 380 ms tbr1-p012402.n54ny.ip.att.net [12.122.11.213]
10 365 ms 370 ms 365 ms gar4-p300.n54ny.ip.att.net [12.123.3.2]
11 370 ms 369 ms 374 ms mdf1-gsr12-2-pos-7-0.bos1.attens.net [12.122.255.134]
12 378 ms 369 ms 370 ms mdf1-bi8k-1-gig-2-1.bos1.attens.net [12.130.0.242]
13 375 ms 374 ms 374 ms 198.74.32.36

Trace complete.


Tracing route to clarity.jolt.co.uk [195.149.21.11]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

1 33 ms 29 ms 29 ms pm3dial.ct.stormnet.co.za [196.22.220.114]
2 31 ms 30 ms 30 ms ct3640.ct.stormnet.co.za [196.22.220.1]
3 40 ms 34 ms 35 ms cbs-access1-wan.wc.saix.net [196.25.3.197]
4 191 ms 198 ms 201 ms london-dir-telecity-pos-8-0-0.telkom-ipnet.co.za [196.43.9.50]
5 184 ms 186 ms 184 ms pos2-1.cr02.ldn01.pccwbtn.net [63.218.52.17]
6 196 ms 186 ms 187 ms pos1-1.cr02.ldn01.pccwbtn.net [63.218.12.58]
7 362 ms 362 ms 362 ms lon1-9.nildram.net [195.66.224.59]
8 369 ms 362 ms 363 ms jolt-gw.nildram.net [195.149.20.126]
9 373 ms 368 ms 366 ms clarity.jolt.co.uk [195.149.21.11]

Trace complete.
 
Yea, I've been with Storm for years - they are great.

You always get to talk to someone with a name.

I pay R240.00 for my adsl - it's proven cheaper overall.
 
Yeh Microfast - agree.

What is your international latency like the last few weeks? I would appreciate it if you could ping those ip's in my post above - they are more than 100ms slower than they used to be.
 
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<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by sybawoods</i>
<br />YehWhat is your international latency like the last few weeks? I would appreciate it if you could ping those ip's in my post above - they are more than 100ms slower than they used to be.<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote"></font id="quote">

Don't have dial-up here so with all adsl going via Telkom can't give Storm a rating on adsl. What I can say is that my dial-up with Storm was always great.
 
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by sybawoods</i><hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote"></font id="quote">
| 196.43.10.22 | rrba-ip-stacker-1-fe-0-0.telkom-ipnet.co.za | | +02:00 | 15 | x | Telkom SA Ltd IPNET-EDGE |
| 196.43.10.25 | rrba-ip-esr-1-fe-1-1-7.telkom-ipnet.co.za | | +02:00 | 19 | x | Telkom SA Ltd IPNET-EDGE |
| 196.43.9.50 | london-dir-telecity-pos-8-0-0.telkom-ipnet.co.za | | +02:00 | 709 | -x-- | Telkom SA Ltd. IPNET-INT |
| 196.43.9.54 | newyork-dir-telia-pos-8-0-0.telkom-ipnet.co.za | | +02:00 | 493 | -x- | Telkom SA Ltd. IPNET-INT |
| 213.248.82.237 | nyk-i3-geth3-2.telia.net | | | 479 | -x | Telia International Carrier |
| 213.248.82.149 | nyk-bb2-geth1-3-1.telia.net | | | 492 | -x | Telia International Carrier |
| 192.205.32.49 | telia-gw.n54ny.ip.att.net | | -05:00 | 489 | -x | AT&T Bell Laboratories NETBLK-ATT |
| 12.122.12.53 | tbr2-p013802.n54ny.ip.att.net | | -05:00 | 488 | -x | AT&T WorldNet Services ATT |
| 12.123.3.6 | gar4-p390.n54ny.ip.att.net | | -05:00 | 501 | -x | AT&T WorldNet Services ATT |
| 12.122.255.134 | mdf1-gsr12-2-pos-7-0.bos1.attens.net | | | 518 | -x | AT&T WorldNet Services ATT |
| 12.130.0.242 | mdf1-bi8k-1-gig-2-1.bos1.attens.net | - | | 531 | x- | CERFnet ATTENS-BOS1-1 |
| 198.74.32.36 | york.boston.sierra.com | | | 516 | -x | Dynamix Inc. DYNAMIX-1 |
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Roundtrip time to york.boston.sierra.com, average = 516ms, min = 427ms, max = 562ms -- Oct 11, 2003 4:14:33 PM
 
The problem lies right here in ZA at :

196.43.9.50 london-dir-telecity-pos-8-0-0.telkom-ipnet.co.za

Roundtrip time to 196.43.9.50,
average = 570ms,
min = 436ms,
max = 733ms
Oct 11, 2003 4:29:39 PM

The node is losing packets - up to 40%

This has been the case for some days now.

Watch Telkom talk about viruses.
 
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by Karnaugh</i>
<br />what toold did u use for that traceroute?<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote"></font id="quote">

visualroute
 
The problem is with SAIX (Telkom.) There are some nasty stories doing the round about their network overutilization.

One of the current problems for SAIX is ADSL. They were under the impression that the services would not be that popular and that most users would be "lite" users. The facts are that most users are not and it's causing some network problems.
 
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by TheRabbi</i>
<br />
One of the current problems for SAIX is ADSL. They were under the impression that the services would not be that popular and that most users would be "lite" users. The facts are that most users are not and it's causing some network problems.
<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote"></font id="quote">

It all depends on your definition of lite user - I would classify an ADSL user as a light user as even with my 64kbps ISDN line I can potentially download in excess of 6GB per month where as an ADSL user can download only 3gb (at twice the cost I might add) - the ONLY advantage to ADSL is its always on.

That said Telkom certainly hasnt made provision for its users bandwidth ensuring that bottlenecks dont occur. ISDN users have CHOICE in who they effectively buy their bandwidth from, ADSL users do not. My question is - if other ISP's can carry effectively 6GB of my traffic for R119 per month and still remain profitable, why cant Telkom?
 
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by Sash</i>
<br /> My question is - if other ISP's can carry effectively 6GB of my traffic for R119 per month and still remain profitable, why cant Telkom?
<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote"></font id="quote">
Elementary my dear Sash. They did not indicate that they can't make a profit at R119 for 6GB, it is just that they make so much more at R1000 for 3GB and not having the need to share that [;)]
 
This is a very good point indeed but thats Telkom for u as long as there is no competion they will squeeze every penny they can out of u and will carry on doing so untill they are forced to stop .
This is sooo sad i am lost for words[:(]
 
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