Anyone going to the node.js meetup tonight?

I played around with node.js last year... meh... not a fan of it.
 
Glingfram said:
Not a fan of it either. Just another intermediary.
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Right. That clearly shows just how much you understand event driven programming.

@froot - its an entirely different shift of thinking and coding. event driven programming is awesome for concurrency and high scalability.

We're using node for some of our backend services. Very awesome stuff.
 
semaphore said:
@froot - its an entirely different shift of thinking and coding. event driven programming is awesome for concurrency and high scalability.
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Given the right problem it may be the right solution.

My problem with node is that a fair number of people see it as the solution to every problem and that using node will auto-magically make your site/app scalable.

That and javascript, which is god awful. We have to endure it in the browser, no need to endure it anywhere else.
 
icyrus said:
Given the right problem it may be the right solution.

My problem with node is that a fair number of people see it as the solution to every problem and that using node will auto-magically make your site/app scalable.

That and javascript, which is god awful. We have to endure it in the browser, no need to endure it anywhere else.
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There are benefits to using one language through the entire application. And javascript is not the thorn in the eye it used to be, i used to be of a similar mindset i hated it with the passion. But in later years i have gotten more comfortable with it.

And if you hate writing js in the browser learn coffee script. JS is not going away any time soon. Either embrace it or fall behind the pack.
 
semaphore said:
There are benefits to using one language through the entire application.
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Such as?

semaphore said:
And javascript is not the thorn in the eye it used to be, i used to be of a similar mindset i hated it with the passion. But in later years i have gotten more comfortable with it.
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We call that Stockholm syndrome. ;)

semaphore said:
And if you hate writing js in the browser learn coffee script. JS is not going away any time soon. Either embrace it or fall behind the pack.
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It is a necessary evil but that doesn't mean I won't call a spade a spade.
 
icyrus said:
Such as?
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You really asking me the benefits of an platform being in one language? What do you do again? It's like writing a system in Ruby and C and then your C developer leaves and you cannot replace that person, there is an abundance of javascript developers out there.

Stockholm ? No more like getting my head out the sand and realizing how powerful the language has become.
 
semaphore said:
You really asking me the benefits of an platform being in one language? What do you do again?
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Sounds to me like you're the type of person to use a hammer for every possible job.

semaphore said:
It's like writing a system in Ruby and C and then your C developer leaves and you cannot replace that person, there is an abundance of javascript developers out there.
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That's where we differ. A good developer is independent of the languages they know. But given your attitude I can see how you'd have to settle for any Tom off the street.

semaphore said:
Stockholm ? No more like getting my head out the sand and realizing how powerful the language has become.
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It offers nothing that better languages don't.
 
icyrus said:
Sounds to me like you're the type of person to use a hammer for every possible job.
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Actually our systems are written in a multitude of languages. Not one.

Any tom of the street, oh i can see how you came to that conclusion.

The syntax is not what im referring to but under the hood, a la V8 google engine.

In any case you continue with what you do.
 
haha.
thread is amazing.
the whole internet has pretty much been freaking out over nodejs and how varied its usages are.

the world is looking at how powerful and impressive its realtime capabilities are as well as its more standard usages. and they are amazed.

but not us down in south africa. coz its js and we hate that. we made a chat app AND some pages. we know the real truth.

forget the fact hanselman calls js the assembly language of the web and calls for its embrace.. nono we know the real truth.

with attitudes like that no wonder half of our country's systems are still written in fkn vb6 and cobol.
 
sp4ceman said:
haha.
thread is amazing.
the whole internet has pretty much been freaking out over nodejs and how varied its usages are.

the world is looking at how powerful and impressive its realtime capabilities are as well as its more standard usages. and they are amazed.

but not us down in south africa. coz its js and we hate that. we made a chat app AND some pages. we know the real truth.

forget the fact hanselman calls js the assembly language of the web and calls for its embrace.. nono we know the real truth.

with attitudes like that no wonder half of our country's systems are still written in fkn vb6 and cobol.
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Yep that is the majority of the mentality in this country.

Busy with a project using NodeJS, AngularJs for declarative bindings.
 
sp4ceman said:
haha.
thread is amazing.
the whole internet has pretty much been freaking out over nodejs and how varied its usages are.
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Node's use-case is async IO. If you don't need async IO then Node's use-case is far less appealing.
 
you can write a single page web app, a json backend api, any number of realtime feedback implementations and they will all fit that definition.

but the point is just if you look at the web and how its shaping up these days, writing any site as a js frontend using any one of the many js mvvm libraries and then coupling that with a json api is not a bad design at all.

it ensures your site is responsive, you're good to go regarding mobile implementations and you're pretty much set.

true you could run a json api in pretty much anything but nodes bare bone approach is pretty kickass.

i do think a lot of people are treating it like their one and only tool but if the operation isn't cpu intensive its one of my first choices
 
icyrus said:
Yeah choosing the right tool for the job really is backwards thinking.
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Actually not understanding a tool fully is backwards.

And i never once said its useful for everything, but your total aversion towards js is amusing.
 
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