Apple Watch thread

bwana said:
There's a trend emerging - with an average of 37% vs 57% Always-on is looking like a battery suck.
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Another thing to consider is what type of watch face you're using and whether you change them often or not... if bright \ white \ colourful backgrounds then it will use more battery to light up all those pixels, black backgrounds like the one you shared in #707 shouldn't draw much power comparatively speaking.
 
OnlyOneKenobi said:
Another thing to consider is what type of watch face you're using and whether you change them often or not... if bright \ white \ colourful backgrounds then it will use more battery to light up all those pixels, black backgrounds like the one you shared in #707 shouldn't draw much power comparatively speaking.
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I've been using that watch face more than any other.

CranialBlaze said:
That actually makes no sense.
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Really? Makes perfect sense to me. Much easier than digging into the settings.
 
bwana said:
I've been using that watch face more than any other.


Really? Makes perfect sense to me. Much easier than digging into the settings.
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Most people don’t change that setting daily, they either leave it on or off.

Now instead of hissing it in the system setting which makes sense being a device setting, it applies to more than just the face.
 
CranialBlaze said:
Most people don’t change that setting daily, they either leave it on or off.

Now instead of hissing it in the system setting which makes sense being a device setting, it applies to more than just the face.
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Maybe they'd use it more if it wasn't so buried in the settings?

I had a number of possible guesses to "hissing" but...
 
bwana said:
Maybe they'd use it more if it wasn't so buried in the settings?

I had a number of possible guesses to "hissing" but...
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Whoops that was hiding. Lol

Again, it’s one of those use or don’t use features, people will either leave it on or off, not alternate.

What’s the use case for having it on sometimes and off others? I still barely get the use-case for having it always on.

Personally the only time I’d want it always on in when cycling, but I want it always on while attached to my bike, not my wrist. However, it pauses any exercise when the screen turns off, cause always on is also dependent on being on your wrist.

If I’m going to have to raise it to see it, may as well save the battery.

But again, it’s a system wide feature, attaching it to the faces settings, puts the setting in an illogical place, those settings are specific to the face and not the overall device.
 
OnlyOneKenobi said:
Another thing to consider is what type of watch face you're using and whether you change them often or not... if bright \ white \ colourful backgrounds then it will use more battery to light up all those pixels, black backgrounds like the one you shared in #707 shouldn't draw much power comparatively speaking.
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But it turns all off that odd for Always On anyway so there’s nothing to light up.

White becomes dark etc.
 
$m@Rt@$$ said:
How to micro-LED displays compare to OLED in terms of power consumption?
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Should be very similar since they can turn on and off individually just like OLED and doesn’t make use of a global backlight.
 
SauRoNZA said:
But it turns all off that odd for Always On anyway so there’s nothing to light up.

White becomes dark etc.
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Yes, however it can account for the differences in battery life from one day to the next depending on which faces are used, there will be a difference with even if Always On is switched off, when you compare a bright background vs one with a dark background.
 
OnlyOneKenobi said:
Yes, however it can account for the differences in battery life from one day to the next depending on which faces are used, there will be a difference with even if Always On is switched off, when you compare a bright background vs one with a dark background.
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Yeah overall with battery life it would make a difference.

I was just saying Always On already compensates for it.

I would be quite happy to have the refresh rate from Always On just permanently on across the board. I would imagine that would add 50% in battery easily if not more.

There’s no reason to have a high frame rate watch.
 
OnlyOneKenobi said:
Yes, however it can account for the differences in battery life from one day to the next depending on which faces are used, there will be a difference with even if Always On is switched off, when you compare a bright background vs one with a dark background.
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Yeah, but all the brights go really dark, like the white lines on the Wayfinder face are all dark get when not in focus, all the colors go darker and the display dims, so even a fully white screen would have minimal impact in drain in out of focus state.
 
SauRoNZA said:
Should be very similar since they can turn on and off individually just like OLED and doesn’t make use of a global backlight.
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Yeah so from what I can gather is that they are ever so slightly more efficient than OLED. But the higher brightness capability makes sense for an outdoor intended wearable then.
 
Pho3nix said:
Does the 18% out way the usefulness ?
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For me the "usefulness" of Always on is difficult to appreciate, so yes, it does.

Even more so if/when that 18% eventually translates into increased battery longevity.
 
bwana said:
This morning starts day 12 and so far my end of day averages are 41% with Always On on and 59% Always On off.
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22 days and it's become clear there is still a significant difference - 40.7% vs 59.54%.
 
I think my watch is confused, I’ve trained quite a bit less this week than usual, so on the 3 heavy rest days, my Utras gone from high 80s/low 90s to like 35/40 by days end.

Yet when I’m training I can use like 10-15% for a full day.

How on earth does sitting on your arse and. It leaving the house use like 4x the battery. Lol
 
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