Are you also leaving mysql ?

Saidar

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I cannot see how MySQL will ever be scrapped, as just about every CMS out there use it.
 

hof

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Yucca, exactly how familiar are you with MySQL? No stored procedures? Where have you been?

I agree that the roadmap for MySQL is uncertain at the moment. However, you have to keep in mind:

MySQL is GPL'ed. If Oracle do drive it into the ground, it will be forked (it already has been - see drizzle and others). Furthermore, why the rush to change Yucca? Current versions of MySQL are stable. Were you that unhappy with MySQL 5 (Yucca, apparently you have yet to discover stored procedures, views and triggers)? Unless you're an enterprise user and relied heavily on Sun for support, nothing has changed. The road from here on may be unclear, but give Oracle time to respond. MySQL's userbase is absolutely massive - it would be near impossible to bury the project and Oracle has shown no intentions of doing so. Don't forget Oracle provides Innodb - the only ACID compliant, and arguably most important, engine for MySQL - as well as BerkelyDB. I'm certainly not rushing off to anything else. Let's see what happens.

For all those starting new projects, looking for something new or parro'ing out like Yucca, I'd highly recommend Ingres. Fully featured, enterprise ready RDBMS and far more mature than MySQL. Awesome.
 

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Many news articles yesterday relating to mysql shift due w to fears on oracles plans. In short one of the top guys at mysql resigned yesterday and Ubuntu has just dropped Open Office too. Me? I am not waisting time so it's time for a quick "hello postgresql".:erm:

I believe Ubuntu are only dropping it as a default installation for their Netbook edition. Gimp has also been dropped, does this worry you? Hardly exciting stuff.

And one of the MySQL co-founders resigned. That's one guy, again it worries me not.

Nope, I have no intention of leaving MySQL. If there is one thing Oracle is good at it is databases, so I think it's in safe hands.
 

SmartKit

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Thanks, Yucca.

MySQL is GPL'ed - in the past, when a GPL app has been bought, if the users didn't like it then they simply branched and carried on their own way. Oracle will be well aware of this, and it would be stupid of them to kill what is a popular product. Same goes for OpenOffice.org. I'm personally quite happy to move to PostgreSQL - it's an awesome RDBMS, even better than Oracle in many ways. Nice thing is that most MySQL-based CMS solutions also support PostgreSQL (I know Drupal does - I don't really care for the rest ;)).

Ubuntu has dropped OpenOffice - true, but only for the Netbook edition - and they've opted for Google Docs. Commenters have smelled a back-room deal there. See this article from OOo's marketing.

To answer the OP: I'm setting up a CMS for a client, and I may well go PostgreSQL just to be safe.

the blueprint got a lot of feedbacks and complaints against inclusion of Google Docs. Now they have decided to use Abiword and Gnumeric instead of Google Docs.

Just thought I'd let you know :D
 

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Oh and one more thing: why is Oracle Corporation considered all evil and the harbinger of doom and gloom?
 

evilsee

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I have a friend who works for Mysql and then SUN, I think I ask him for his opinion, if he ever comes online for chat.
 

Rocket-Boy

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If I am gonna have to pay for anything from RDBMS it must offer me LOTS more than any competitive open source alternative out there.

Does glassfish offer more than Jboss without netbeans? NO
Does netbeans eithout c++, php, JEE and all other extras, offer more than IntelliJ out the box? No
Does mysql offer stored procedures like postgresql? NO



Feel free to add to this list.

Lol!!!1
Yes, MySQL does infact do stored procedures. I know this because I use them all the time.
 

nfbs

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Used mysql before last year and had hassles with it.Think it was views couldn't be used in stored procs or didn't support nested views or nested queries more than x levels deep.
I also hated that I create a view put nice comments in and when I save it and edit again it deleted my indentation and comments. I had to keep a separate text files of the view create statements because of that. Point is mysql still has a far way to go just out of a IDE and usability point of view.
 

Raithlin

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Oracle and MySQL are the only databases I use, oh and Firebird, that's my little pet project.

Firebird ftw! That's a stunning little project (and surprise, it's open source too!).

Oracle AND MySQL, hey? Then I guess you're in good hands. ;)
 
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