ASP or PHP

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Raithlin said:
There may be more .Net developers, but I would say the bottom 60% don't have a clue what they are doing, resulting in the top 40% getting paid well for their (relatively speaking) better skills/experience.
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I reckon I'm part of the upper 40% of the upper 40%. :cool:

(imho, of course)
 
FarligOpptreden said:
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I reckon I'm part of the upper 40% of the upper 40%. :cool:

(imho, of course)
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That's not a complement! j/k

There are a ton of seriously inadequate coders out there, whether it be from the fact that coding can't be learnt parrot style like they try teach it in colleges or because the languages are a hell of a lot easier to grasp now but compared to the simple structures of chems available back then, blame was normally placed whe I felt sober

The only decent programmers left, with a few exceptions, seem to be of the C/C++ variety, a language that allows you immense flexibility but if you mess something up the compiler doesn't give a crap. And pointers rock! Without them, I think I would have lost the plot. After finding them, everyone after me who uses my code loses their minds! I explicitly type case everything and it's mother when doing calculations, coming from low level embedded recently it's something you do to make sure you're in the clear, because if a (for eg) a sprintf formatter is expecting a long and gets an int, it will eat the next 2 bytes and leave everything wacked and confused.

Anyone remember debugging 10 000's of lines of code in a text editor with no syntax highlighting? Just to "render" a text form and get the mouse drivers going. Or to get that damned Sound Blaster card talking? Those were the days... Now the compilers do 99% of the stuff for you, it is dynamically compiled, syntax highlighting is superb and I won't even start on code completion or inline help.
 
C/C++ is powerful but as you said you can make a ton of mistakes and the compilers dont really give a crap which normally lead to instable and buggy programs. C/C++ in the way you refer to it (native c) is also a pain in the ass making sure you clean up after yourself every single step aswell as taking FOREVER to do a simple task you could have done in 1 line in another compiler.
 
DrugsRbadMkay said:
That's not a complement! j/k

There are a ton of seriously inadequate coders out there, whether it be from the fact that coding can't be learnt parrot style like they try teach it in colleges or because the languages are a hell of a lot easier to grasp now but compared to the simple structures of chems available back then, blame was normally placed whe I felt sober

The only decent programmers left, with a few exceptions, seem to be of the C/C++ variety, a language that allows you immense flexibility but if you mess something up the compiler doesn't give a crap. And pointers rock! Without them, I think I would have lost the plot. After finding them, everyone after me who uses my code loses their minds! I explicitly type case everything and it's mother when doing calculations, coming from low level embedded recently it's something you do to make sure you're in the clear, because if a (for eg) a sprintf formatter is expecting a long and gets an int, it will eat the next 2 bytes and leave everything wacked and confused.

Anyone remember debugging 10 000's of lines of code in a text editor with no syntax highlighting? Just to "render" a text form and get the mouse drivers going. Or to get that damned Sound Blaster card talking? Those were the days... Now the compilers do 99% of the stuff for you, it is dynamically compiled, syntax highlighting is superb and I won't even start on code completion or inline help.
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Dude, technology and programming languages improve and evolve - learn to live with it! There's no need only sticking to C/C++ because it's "old-skool" and "hardcore". It's like refusing to use a cell-phone just because Morse-code is used to be the way it was done.
 
JAVA dude !!! , JSP , servlets ,etc . ASP.net is ok , not that difficult to learn. You mentioned you already have some insight to PHP , now try Java , these programmers also do get paid very nicely
 
2cute2shy said:
JAVA dude !!! , JSP , servlets ,etc . ASP.net is ok , not that difficult to learn. You mentioned you already have some insight to PHP , now try Java , these programmers also do get paid very nicely
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Yeah, because it is painful to code and maintain. :p
 
NOTEPAD++ is the best IDE!!!, igot some php skills,been wantng to try out asp.net but just wana brush up my css skills,some xhtml then do some xml before jumping into the server side stuff
 
I've had Notepad++ crash on me too often to have confidence in it as my primary editor. I use Notepad2 for basic editing.
 
midrange said:
Disagree. If you're looking for full-time work in web development, it's best to have ASP.NET. Have a quick gander at the job ads.

If you're just doing it as a hobby or a freelancer, PHP is your best bet due to hosting.
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What makes ASP better then PHP?
 
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