ATi 5850, the end ...

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So many years of nvidia and finally a test of ATI, let me say a taste ... I was like for now, while it is hot but this 5850 has done major duty. Finaly bought the orignal crysis after finishing warhead and just finished it on Delta. All I can say is salute, overclocked to 900/1200 juiced with 1.175 votage and it stands up just fine.

Here is to those who waited for the Nvida GTX460 as well ...

Here is to the true geeks.
 
Hahahaha nice :) good laugh lol.. You can push it over 1GHz I got 1010/1200 @1.25 easy could actually go higher :)
 
well 5850 does perform better.. But price/performance the 460 normally wins ... Well it depends on what price you pay for each
 
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Well I would get the 460 slightly cheaper than the 5850 so I think I'll take it.
 
you can seriously overclock the 460 (this I know).
With it overclocked, it does outperform the 5850 (based on reviews I've read)
 
That is a pointless statement as one can just as easily over clock the 5850 and it will beat an OC'd 460.. So we back to square one?
 
memakda said:
you can seriously overclock the 460 (this I know).
With it overclocked, it does outperform the 5850 (based on reviews I've read)
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nakedpeanut said:
That is a pointless statement as one can just as easily over clock the 5850 and it will beat an OC'd 460.. So we back to square one?
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Exactly. I mean why buy the 460 when you could (for example) OC a 5770 which would beat it. But then an OC 5670 would beat a stock 5770. Etc etc etc
 
Archer said:
Exactly. I mean why buy the 460 when you could (for example) OC a 5770 which would beat it. But then an OC 5670 would beat a stock 5770. Etc etc etc
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Are you sure a 5770 could beat it overclocked? Saying that you can overclock it to beat the ati makes sense considering the price difference.

How many times i have heard you say just buy this cpu and overclock it. It makes sense because you can have 5850 or more performance for less money. I have bought many cpu's that were cheaper and just overclock them to beat the more expensive one. I always thought of it as a way to save money. Buy a 3k cpu and overclock to beat a 9k cpu :D. What does not make sense about it?

Sure that 9k cpu could be overclocked as well but that is besides the point :D.
 
killadoob said:
Are you sure a 5770 could beat it overclocked? Saying that you can overclock it to beat the ati makes sense considering the price difference.
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No, thats why I said for example. I have no clue if an OC 5770 could beat a 460

How many times i have heard you say just buy this cpu and overclock it. It makes sense because you can have 5850 or more performance for less money. I have bought many cpu's that were cheaper and just overclock them to beat the more expensive one. I always thought of it as a way to save money. Buy a 3k cpu and overclock to beat a 9k cpu :D. What does not make sense about it?
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The only time I have said this is when a person is deciding between a Phenom 955 and 965. In that case you bump the multiplier by one in the 955, and you have yourself a 965. Temps/power/everything is the same. 95% of the time a 955 will even OC to the same levels as a 965.

Sure that 9k cpu could be overclocked as well but that is besides the point :D.
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No, thats the whole point. Buy something and OC it immediately and you have no headroom to grow. Buy something that will run your apps/games fine at stock speeds and you have something that will last you far longer since it can still be OC'd
 
Again though i have bought cpu's that had needed more temps, more power and nothing is the same to produce the same as a much more expensive cpu, sometimes like 3-4times as much.

So for growing you reckon i should have just dropped the 3 or 4 times on the faster cpu?

Not sure i agree with that but anyhoo, let's call it a draw :p
 
killadoob said:
Again though i have bought cpu's that had needed more temps, more power and nothing is the same to produce the same as a much more expensive cpu, sometimes like 3-4times as much.
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Dont understand this sentence.
So for growing you reckon i should have just dropped the 3 or 4 times on the faster cpu?
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Yes, thats exactly what I said. /sarcasm
Not sure i agree with that but anyhoo, let's call it a draw
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Thats because you dont understand my view point.
 
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killadoob said:
Again though i have bought cpu's that had needed more temps, more power and nothing is the same to produce the same as a much more expensive cpu, sometimes like 3-4times as much.

So for growing you reckon i should have just dropped the 3 or 4 times on the faster cpu?

Not sure i agree with that but anyhoo, let's call it a draw :p
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lol could you please explain/decipher this for me? Cause I don't understand..

I think your CPU example, can only apply to a the GPU example if for instance you are comparing cards where:
both cards have to same architecture (bus width, memory size etc)
but one card runs at 700/1000 and the other at 800/1000 and are priced differently based on this..
Then it would make sense for you to to buy the cheaper(slower) one and OC it to the levels of the more expensive one as you could in the end OC both to the same limit (say 1000/1000 or what ever)

It's the same with the i5 750 and i5 760 and 955 and 965 in both cases you can get the same OC as the chips are essentially just clocked slower whilst everything else is identical. For that reason it makes price/performance sense to buy the cheaper one as you can clock both to the same extreme.

Comparing a 460 OC to a 5850 OC is non comparable to this explanation as they are totally different architectures, and do not OC to the same level of performance if you take their OC to the maximum.
 
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