Ati Is Dead! :(

[ShockG]

Good engineers are far and few inbetween so there is lots of cross pollination in the semiconductor universe.

3Dfx> Ex SGI engineers
Richard Huddy (ATI) >> Ex NVIDIA engineer
NVIDIA CEO JHH >> Ex AMD engineer
ATI Radeon 9700+ >> ArtX technology and engineers!

Point is you can't say who hasn't invented or designed what. Its the same people just working at different places that all...

 

[Darth Garth]

Hm, would that include the 64 bit processors that Intel licensed from AMD?

You got the cat by the tail here.

Intel wanted the Itanuim ("Itanic") to be their 64 bit solution and eventually wean everybody off from the x86 architecture but the Itanuim for various reasons never caught on because it's x86 emulation mode was too slow and compiler technology have not evolved far enough to make VLIW (very long instruction word) CPU a commercial success.

AMD in the mean time extended the x86 architecture to 64 bits which was rather easy to do and Microsoft and others supported it having wisely decided that Itanuim was a collossal waste of time and Intel was forced to follow suit lest it loose the market and used the same spesifications than go their own route and cause confusion in the market.

 

[Darth Garth]

3Dfx> Ex SGI engineers
Richard Huddy (ATI) >> Ex NVIDIA engineer
NVIDIA CEO JHH >> Ex AMD engineer
ATI Radeon 9700+ >> ArtX technology and engineers!

Point is you can't say who hasn't invented or designed what. Its the same people just working at different places that all...

You are right there

ArtX ---> the ex-SGI folks who worked on the Nintendo 64
NVidia --> lots of ex-3DFX folks work there now

 

[Claymore]

The funny bit: Have you noticed how AMD always make a big fuss when achieving a milestone or something? Big fuss when they 'copied' Intel's hyperthreading, big fuss when they 'copied' dual-core and an even BIGGER fuss when they made a faster processor than Intel. It's the same with ATi.

AMD has never copied Hyperthreading - they have no need of it, because Hyperthreading was a workaround for the problems in Intel's very deep pipelining in the Netburst architecture. As for copying dual-core - howcome they released dual-core first?

Let's not mention Intel having to licence AMD's x64 because their own 64-bit instruction set (Itanium) didn't sell.

I'm ot trying to run AMD down at all. I've been a avid user of their products since my very first PC and switched to Intel because I wanted a nForce4 chipset board at the time.

Eh? Nforce4 was out for AMD ages before the Intel version.

 

[DagegeN]

AMD FOR GAMING !!!
INTEL FOR PANZIES !!!

 

[killadoob]

ya amd rawks big time

intel is expensive and thus conroe wont take off

speed is all good, but the ppl who can afford conroe are few and far between
where as the ppl who can afford fast cheap cpu's (amd) will buy amd and thats where your market is

they should sell the fx 61 for around 1200 bucks everyone would it

whats conroe again?

 

[DagegeN]

ya amd rawks big time

intel is expensive and thus conroe wont take off

speed is all good, but the ppl who can afford conroe are few and far between
where as the ppl who can afford fast cheap cpu's (amd) will buy amd and thats where your market is

they should sell the fx 61 for around 1200 bucks everyone would it

whats conroe again?

im sure it's some kind of canoe ... hehe

 

[ShockG]

We'll eventually get used to it.

What is means however is that you can now have an Intel machine powered by and AMD graphics card. Which should bring all the fanboys together in peace.

 

[killadoob]

no i want an amd pc powered by an amd vga card

down with intel!!!

 

[Raithlin]

no i want an amd pc powered by an amd vga card

down with intel!!!

Heh, way ahead of you. I just realised I have an AMD/ATI combo.

 

[Elfreako]

will be really interesting to see what game-plan AMD bring in.

 

[Peppercorns]

Okay, this is all great and all for AMD, but if you think about it, they don't really have much experience with graphics cards, where as Nvidia have been working with them for a long time now.

I think Nvidia will still be able to walk this one off pretty easily.

Or at least thats my opinion

 

[killadoob]

pepper when u take over a company you dont fire everybody

so im sure the ppl who have been working with vga chips for so long will still there

they make cpu's come on vga chips must be a breeze

 

[nGAGEd55]

http://www.pcpro.co.uk/custompc/news/news/91650

So the ATI brand isn't really dead

 

[Peppercorns]

Ok ya, that is true, forgot about that altogether

So in the end it will be quite entertaining to see what happens...

Maybe Nvidia might even merge with Intel as a result.... not take over, but merge as to work together..

Just a thought

 

[bwana]

http://www.pcpro.co.uk/custompc/news/news/91650

So the ATI brand isn't really dead

Nope, doesnt seem like it is - http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20060808-7446.html

 

[ShockG]

No Intel will not be merging with nVidia, they have no interest in that and that can't possibly bring them anything they don't have already.

What's clear from all this is that ATi will have no part in the overall name of the company after the takeover, but it's possible that AMD will continue to use the ATi brand, as well as the Radeon brand, for specific product lines. What's also clear is that mixed messages are not only being given to the press, but also to the employees of both ATi and AMD.

Eric DeRitis told Custom PC: 'AMD has no plans to drop the ATi brand name or ATi's product brands.

Gareth Carter and Richard Barker say different, maybe we should see what Hector Ruiz has to say about it because he's most likely to know more than all three of these guys.

If indeed ATI brand is staying, I'll be happy.

 

[Ekhaatvensters]

hmm, it will be interesting to see the intergrated graphics that can come on a AMD board now, as it wil be perfectly optimized for AMD, and built by the same company, even cheaper to make.

Cant wait to check out the new products anyway, it wil be great if AMD can bring back ATI, im no fan boiy either way, so Ill buy whatevers better. But when it comes to chips im AMDal the way. FU$k the new Intels.

 

[ShockG]

Ha Ha spoken like a true fan!

Yeah the new intel chips kick butt, but at AMD's current pricing I find no real reason to move to Intel especially if you're using high end GFX cards and the like and play high resolution. You're GFX card bound there and not CPU bound so all the CPU power you have will count for 0! :/

The idea of AM2 is growing on me every day...

IGP parts really need to get better in performance, because they for the most part make dvelopers have fall backs to older technology which means games are always a good 6 cycles or so behind current gfx cards.

 

[Elfreako]

IGP parts really need to get better in performance, because they for the most part make dvelopers have fall backs to older technology which means games are always a good 6 cycles or so behind current gfx cards.

Yeah I hope something gets done about this to.