Bank Zero has gone live with its closed beta

Jordaan also said that CVV numbers are not completely secure.


“In our experience, criminals bypass CVV by shopping at merchants who don’t check for it,” said Jordaan.

So they decided instead just to get rid of it?
Can anyone elaborate what is the replacement security measure bank zero uses, and what happens to sites that require a cvv?
 
MyBroadband asked Jordaan about potential competition against its card technology from FNB’s recently-launched virtual card feature, whereby a customer’s CVV number is changed every hour for improved security.
Huh - I didn't know about this.
Seems useful.
and what happens to sites that require a cvv?
I'm also curious about this.
 
But why not Thyme Bank? What does Bank Zero offer more?

Seems very similar for me.

Perhaps not a thing for most, but I don't believe there's any banks that offer a truly free or low cost account for businesses, so this is great for small businesses starting out.
 
So they decided instead just to get rid of it?
Can anyone elaborate what is the replacement security measure bank zero uses, and what happens to sites that require a cvv?

At the heart of the plan is three different card numbers used for every Bank Zero card, two of them invisible to customers.

In modern bank cards the card number is encoded in three different places, Narsai says in the patent application: visibly embossed onto the card face, plus in the magnetic strip on the back and in the microchip or "processor memory".

There is no reason those three numbers can't be different from one another – and that allows for "lane processing" differentiation.

The number actually displayed on the card "can be used in situations where highly secured 2-factor authentication can easily be implemented", such as online payments, Narsai says, and then locked for use only in such transactions. A second, different number in the mag strip can be locked for use only for swiping at point of sale devices where smart cards can not be used, and a third number can be unique to the smart card, for chip-and-PIN type transactions.

A card-skimming device of the type scammers attach to ATMs will be able to read the card number on the magnetic strip – but will not be able to use it for fraudulent online transactions, even if they capture a customer's PIN with a hidden camera too.

The system also means "that expiry dates can now be set for ultra-long durations", Narsai says in the patent, which will mean fewer deliveries that need to be organised by the online-only Bank Zero.

Perhaps more importantly for its customers, "the card number shown on the plastic need not change when the card is replaced" – so subscriptions to online services can remain intact even when a card is lost or stolen.

So 2FA for online it seems. Perhaps the CVV can just be left blank on those sites? (Unless it's a mandatory field, I can't remember if it ever is)
 
No one knows. We get the odd article here and there to remind us that they exist. Wouldn't hold my breath, will probably be much the same as any other bank.
And for some reason in 2020 they've still got a stupid 1995-loooking placeholder website up with zero information. I don't get it.

https://www.bankzero.co.za/
 
Should I be surprised if my balance also goes to zero along the way?
 
I been curious about this one for a while. I remember reading about it in 2018, when they first integrated into the SARB, thought it wouldn't be long before it went live, 2 years later and still not completely live.

Just goes to show how long over time and budget these projects run.

Also thought they would be be a lot closer to the Discovery launch, seeing if their product would be less behavioral driven, but discovery launched last year already.
 
Tymebank is a lightweight bank for web/app functionality - I use their services. But not enough oomf for serious business. Can't say bye-bye to FNB and there fees.

The Bankzero hype is for much more functionality at low cost. Would love to see if I could make it bye-bye FNB

Target market is those who don't need (or qualify...) for debt. No consumer debt risks.
Excellent!
 
Tymebank is a lightweight bank for web/app functionality - I use their services. But not enough oomf for serious business. Can't say bye-bye to FNB and there fees.

The Bankzero hype is for much more functionality at low cost. Would love to see if I could make it bye-bye FNB

Target market is those who don't need (or qualify...) for debt. No consumer debt risks.
Excellent!

Will you be able to work App only? Zero will have no online banking website.
 
Will you be able to work App only? Zero will have no online banking website.
It depends on the App.

At the moment I use the FNB web site very seldom...

Would love to hear from actual people selected for this BETA what their experiences are.
 
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