Basic education lashes out at Equal Education's 'white adults'

The message is clear .. white is the enemy.

Of course, white is the enemy. It has always been like this. Well, at least for the last 1000years, or 500, or whatever. The DA or the whites for that matter, should not bother with the (black) education standard in South Africa. Unless they want to be called RACISTS. How do you like this logic? WTF mentality is this?
 
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I had never heard of http://www.equaleducation.org.za/ before but it looks like an organization I could support. Thanks, Angie Motshekga, for bringing them to my attention.

Streisand effect strikes again! :D

Do you know Section27? They were the ones that nailed the department on the non-delivery of textbooks and basic school infrastructure failures.
 
Well yes, that's obvious. But who? Everyone they've tried don't know their ass from their elbow.

It's a quandary. Can you imagine having to try and sort out the mess that is that department?
I recall Naledi Pandor making some headway,but you're right. Complete and utter balls up. Bureaucratic nightmare.
 
It will have to be an AnC member as appointing someone from any other party will only result in boycotts.
The person taking over will have to be strong and make some widely unpopular decisions.
 
Motshekga won't retract 'racist' attack on Equal Education

Basic Education Minister Angie Motshekga has no intention of retracting her department's blistering attack on rights organisation Equal Education.

In a statement released on Tuesday the department called Equal Education "a group of white adults organising black African children with half-truths".

Motshekga's spokesperson Hope Mokgatlhe told the Mail & Guardian on Wednesday that the statement will not be retracted.

"There's nothing racist" in the statement, Mokgatlhe said. "Obviously people will interpret it differently. But if they feel there should be a retraction, they are more than welcome to approach the South African Human Rights Commission."

Contributors to social media networks have lambasted the department for the statement. On Twitter, activist Zackie Achmat called it a "racist attack" on the NGO. Vusi Pikoli, the former National Prosecuting Authority boss, said he went to bed on the day the statement was released hoping he would wake up to news that the department had retracted the statement.

The department released the statement days after Equal Education filed urgent new papers in the Bhisho High Court against Motshekga. Citing the minister's "long history" of delays and "broken promises" concerning publication of minimum norms and standards on school infrastructure, the papers seek a court order compelling her to publish these.

The court agreed the matter was urgent and set it down for hearing early in July.

Then the department struck back. "It is interesting to note the sudden interest that Equal Education is taking in the education of the African child," its furious statement said.

"Suddenly the NGO knows all about the challenges that African children face against the privileges they have enjoyed. The struggle for black children to receive a decent classroom in which to learn has been ongoing for many decades, even before the days of Bantu education ...

"However, to suddenly see a group of white adults organising black African children with half-truths can only be [sic] opportunistic, patronising and simply dishonest, to say the least."

Not racist to mention history
Mokgathle said the statement sought merely to highlight that a lack of resources in schools in black communities was a long-standing issue stemming from the apartheid era that the department is now addressing.

"It's a necessary reminder of history to the African child that his education was not taken seriously. It's not racist to mention history," she said. "It's not racist to say that the education of an African child was not prioritised."

But for the South African Institute of Race Relations, the statement is racist, its education researcher, Jonathan Snyman, told the M&G. "The argument made in the statement is nothing more than an ad hominem fallacy and indeed racist," he said.

"It is unfortunate that the authors of this statement had to resort to such personal attacks without admitting that the reason the department finds itself in this position in the first place is through its own failings."

EE 'shocked'
The nongovernmental organisation said on Tuesday evening it was shocked and disappointed by Motshekga's comments.

Equal Education chairperson Yoliswa Dwane called for Motshekga to distance herself from the statements, which it said was racist.

"Equal Education consists of people of every background and we are very proud of this. Any person who commits [themselves] to advancing the daily struggles of poor and working class youth is welcome in Equal Education," said Dwane.

"That these values exist is something that those responsible for education should celebrate, not attack."

Motshekga published a draft set of norms in January which Equal Education and other activists and lawyers described as “severely inadequate”. Motshekga said in Tuesday’s statement that a re-draft of the document would take at least six months to complete.

She said she has been communicating with Equal Education to update it on the department’s progress in this regard.

She wrote a letter to the organisation on May 9 in which she indicated that the compulsory consultation process with the National Economic Development and Labour Council had not been concluded. When she received its report, Motshekga said, she would consider all recommendations.

"It is important to emphasise that norms and standards cannot be published at the whim of Equal Education," said Motshekga.

"The South African government is a democracy that requires all involved and interested in education to have ample time to make input to the final regulations," she said.

But Equal Education said “every factual claim” by the department in its statement “about the process needed for the finalisation of Minimum Norms and Standards for School Infrastructure is wrong and misleading”.

Meanwhile, basic education spokesperson Panyaza Lesufi said the department would appear in court if it received a notice to do so after a grade 11 Eastern Cape pupil took it to court over the condition of her school.

"We believe this case is part of the gimmick of the Equal Education to embarrass the department," he said.

Equal Education is one of the applicants in the case, which was postponed to October 22.

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" ... To suddenly see a group of white adults organising black African children with half-truths can only be opportunistic, patronising and simply dishonest to say the least," Mothsekga said on Tuesday.

Without whites joining the fight against apartheid the ANC would never have won anything.
 
" ... To suddenly see a group of white adults organising black African children with half-truths can only be opportunistic, patronising and simply dishonest to say the least," Mothsekga said on Tuesday.

Without whites joining the fight against apartheid the ANC would never have won anything.
Really? What do you base that racist comment on?
 
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But who should replace her?

Mary Metcalf.

Not perfect and can talk crap but she does genuinely seem to care about education.

Prof Jansen from FS Uni?

But would they be able to corrupt him?

So far the ANC has stuffed up education royally. It started with Kader Asmal - if ever someone deserved to die in a grease fire. How many years did he steal from young people with his social engineering? Naledi Pandor - a more self opinionated person you will struggle to find and probably a huge contributor to school girl pregnancy. And now Angie 'they want books, let them read the internet' Motshekga is doing her best to highlight the advantages of Bantu education.
 
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Really? What do you base that racist comment on?[/QUOTE]

Racist?... i dont think so...

Do you really believe it was only blacks taking part in the fight against apartheid?... Do you really believe it was the mass of black people marching along the streets that persuaded goverment to hand it all over?.
Do you really believe the ANC terrorist cells were able to do anything without the help of white anti apartheid activists?.

Pressure from the international community as well as the local white community contributed largely toward government eventualy giving in. If it wasnt for the risk of the white media sending pictures overseas the racist government could have easily exterminated the problem.

the ANC racist idiots of today have a chip on thier shoulders and have totaly forgotten where and how they got to where they are.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_resistance_to_apartheid#White_resistance

Theres a little bit of information for you , try googling more.
 
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Mary Metcalf.

Not perfect and can talk crap but she does genuinely seem to care about education.

Prof Jansen from FS Uni?

But would they be able to corrupt him?

So far the ANC has stuffed up education royally. It started with Kader Asmal - if ever someone deserved to die in a grease fire. How many years did he steal from young people with his social engineering? Naledi Pandor - a more self opinionated person you will struggle to find and probably a huge contributor to school girl pregnancy. And now Angie 'they want books, let them read the internet' Motshekga is doing her best to highlight the advantages of Bantu education.

Thought about her. But I reckon the chances of them appointing a whitey as head of education won't be happening any time soon. And no way will they let someone as critical of ANC/government as Jansen be in charge of it, either.
 
Okay, here goes, agree, don't agree, I don't give a *****...

This again displays the ANC's hatred against white people in South Africa. The ANC simply sees the white man as their enemy. They hate to see a white person making progress in this country. They hate to see a white person doing good in school, university, getting a good job, making money....

Simply put, obviously an unknown organization to the ANC comes up with a plan to address the educational crisis in this country and they simply jump into defensive mode blaming the white man of being opportunistic. Just simply shows the mindset of the ANC and their attitude towards white people.

As long as our current government stays in power the way they are, white people will have a problem in this country. The ANC will clearly do everything in its power to play off white people, attempt to drag them down to their own level and kick them on the floor while laying there.

Before I continue and shoot myself in the foot here, I just want to end by saying I do not like the way the black people in the ANC runs the educational department in this country. That is it!
 
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Probably the aid from Russia. And then the support from the rest of the world towards the end.

They had outside help, sure, but the fact that they were white is not relevant. It would be more accurate to say, for example, "Without [-]whites[/-] an international superpower joining the fight against apartheid the ANC would never have won anything."
or
"Without [-]whites[/-] top lawyers joining the fight against apartheid the ANC would never have won anything."
or
"Without [-]whites[/-] foreign sanctions joining the fight against apartheid the ANC would never have won anything."

To say "without whites" is to say that black people could not achieve anything because they are black - it was white people who came in and saved the day for them, which is absurd since skin colour is irrelevant. Without blacks, indians and coloureds joining the fight against apartheid the ANC would never have won anything either, so bringing up skin colour, as if it's relevant factor in how apartheid was ended, is nonsensical - all races took part in the fight against apartheid and for diesel to oppose Motshekga's racism with his own racism is unproductive.
 
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