Best cheapest iPhone?

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capd said:
I just buy off Takealot and pay the Pakistani R200 to fit it. Not worth my time DIY. R700 total and guaranteed done while I shop.
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A Pakistani damaged my dad’s iPhone :confused:

That’s for Android peasants :p
 
$m@Rt@$$ said:
Also guaranteed to not be OEM.
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I don’t know if that’s a huge issue. I’ve fitted so many third party MacBook batteries which all register as the correct vendors and capacities. Pretty sure iPhones are the same in that the cells and to a degree circuitry come from the same OEM suppliers to Apple.
 
capd said:
Control Centre being switched to a top-left swipe-down, would be my guess.
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Then the same could be said for right handed people and the Notification Centre?
 
capd said:
I don’t know if that’s a huge issue. I’ve fitted so many third party MacBook batteries which all register as the correct vendors and capacities. Pretty sure iPhones are the same in that the cells and to a degree circuitry come from the same OEM suppliers to Apple.
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You might be stuck with a non-genuine battery warning.

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bwana said:
What is it about the 11 that needs to be catered for lefties?
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Just because of the size and placement of elements if you it left handed it’s very hard to reach certain things.

Not the 11 specifically, just iOS in general.

It would have been nice for iOS to simply have a “flip” option for most GUI elements.

So like now in Tapatalk the reply button is at the top-right so one hand is impossible and even two-handed it doesn’t make “brain sense” to a lefty.

Similar messaging apps have their send buttons on the right side which means stretching for it.

Pretty much everything is biased to the right hand with elements all over being on the right. Safari and most default keyboard input the Go button is bottom right.

Mail the compose and send buttons are on the right etc.

It wouldn’t be a hard thing to cater to at all…certainly easier than all that Dark Mode kak they force in everywhere.
 
bwana said:
Then the same could be said for right handed people and the Notification Centre?
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Except most people never use that like that and it’s just there by default on the Lock Screen.

But remember I was a specific comment in regards to one-handed use and therefore more specific tasks while walking around etc.
 
SauRoNZA said:
Just because of the size and placement of elements if you it left handed it’s very hard to reach certain things.
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The thing is I dont often see people just using one hand, left or right, when they’re doing input intensive things like messaging or browsing.
 
bwana said:
The thing is I dont often see people just using one hand, left or right, when they’re doing input intensive things like messaging or browsing.
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Certainly not often, no.

I only ever do it when walking back from school after dropping off kids.

But even two-handed it would have been nice to have a more accommodating interface.

Instead I have to do a very unnatural right handed logic operation which sometimes just gets stuck because it doesn’t make sense.
 
SauRoNZA said:
Top-right.

But that’s a good one I forgot to mention.
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? :unsure:
SauRoNZA said:
Certainly not often, no.

I only ever do it when walking back from school after dropping off kids.

But even two-handed it would have been nice to have a more accommodating interface.

Instead I have to do a very unnatural right handed logic operation which sometimes just gets stuck because it doesn’t make sense.
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There should be an option to basically mirror everything to the other side.
 
capd said:
? :unsure:

There should be an option to basically mirror everything to the other side.
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Control Centre is top-right. Notification Centre is top-left.

And yes, such a simple thing to bake right in is a flipped interface with iconography not flipping.

One thing I can say the “swype” or whatever function on the iOS keyboard works much better left-handed than any other.

In fact auto complete as a whole is better in iOS keyboard than any other and I’m convinced it’s because of compensating for left-handed or alternative typing where others don’t do it.

Over the years I tried all the others and they were deeply error prone.
 
SauRoNZA said:
Control Centre is top-right. Notification Centre is top-left.

And yes, such a simple thing to bake right in is a flipped interface with iconography not flipping.

One thing I can say the “swype” or whatever function on the iOS keyboard works much better left-handed than any other.

In fact auto complete as a whole is better in iOS keyboard than any other and I’m convinced it’s because of compensating for left-handed or alternative typing where others don’t do it.

Over the years I tried all the others and they were deeply error prone.
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But that's what I said?

Notification Centre is anywhere but top-right. Centre or top-left. And not specifically top-left.
 
capd said:
But that's what I said?

Notification Centre is anywhere but top-right. Centre or top-left. And not specifically top-left.
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Oh you meant that I would like to have it top-left, not that it currently is.

I’m with you now.
 
SauRoNZA said:
Certainly not often, no.

I only ever do it when walking back from school after dropping off kids.

But even two-handed it would have been nice to have a more accommodating interface.

Instead I have to do a very unnatural right handed logic operation which sometimes just gets stuck because it doesn’t make sense.
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I guess I never realised people had trouble with it. Scissors, screws, cameras, corkscrews, and even clothing I get but not the iPhone interface.
 
bwana said:
I guess I never realised people had trouble with it. Scissors, screws, cameras, corkscrews, and even clothing I get but not the iPhone interface.
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I mean it’s not like it’s impossible to use, it’s just one of those things that could have been better with very minimal changes.

Corkscrews and screws have never bothered me; they are universal.

Clothing isn’t an issue either, outside of tying shoelaces which is only a problem if you had to teach yourself because nobody else could.

My son is very lucky in that regard. On the flipside my daughter will need to learn those skills from my wife.

Cameras I never thought about. Not a particular issue for the lack of anything else, but I would imagine there’s probably a higher chance of moving the camera while pulling the trigger with your non-native hand much like shooting.

Shooting and things like playing pool I do right-handed because I’m left-eye biased so that’s fortunately a non-issue.

I think by the very nature of having to compensate for it in most situations all left-handed people are ambidextrous to a much more balanced degree than their right-handed counterparts.
 
SauRoNZA said:
Corkscrews and screws have never bothered me; they are universal.
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They're designed with right handed torque in mind.
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Clothing isn’t an issue either, outside of tying shoelaces which is only a problem if you had to teach yourself because nobody else could.
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So you can unzip and presumably urinate using your right hand but tapping reply with the same hand is counter-intuitive? Maybe it's a question of practice?
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Cameras I never thought about. Not a particular issue for the lack of anything else, but I would imagine there’s probably a higher chance of moving the camera while pulling the trigger with your non-native hand much like shooting.
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It's more to do with the majority of left handed people being left eyed.
 
bwana said:
They're designed with right handed torque in mind.
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It’s one of those things I do situationally in either hand so never really thought about it but I guess it’s slightly easier in the right yeah.

Much drilling because of the centrifugal force moving to the outside hand.

So you can unzip and presumably urinate using your right hand but tapping reply with the same hand is counter-intuitive? Maybe it's a question of practice?
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I’ve had years of practise so it’s not that. It’s not a case of it being hard or impossible so much as your brain will always default to the left and therefore you have a moment of brain freeze that occurs before you switch to the right.

Once you are there it’s not very hard to work with the right hand, it’s just that you don’t default there.

Don’t really have a lot of zips and most are centrally mounted so would need to actively monitor which hand I use. On my jeans they all face right so I’m guessing I would default to right.

It's more to do with the majority of left handed people being left eyed.
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Never had eye bias being an issue when using a normal camera because you pretty much see what you see when wanting to frame a shot regardless of which eye.

Not like pool, bow or guns where what you see and what happens are two different things when you use the wrong eye, because you only find out after completing the action.

It’s much like shooting with the scope on a gun things don’t change depending on your eye. Whole different story with manual sights that need to line up two points.
 
Wait hold up.

Do right handed people operate the zip with their right hand even when the “hook” comes in front the right side?

As the most complicated part I would have assumed you do that right-handed and use the left for the actual zipper?

I was always under the impression this is just a man/woman thing because they are flipped around.
 
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