Biomolecular machines

rwenzori said:
I would say you are the one people see right through, as you refuse to state your case and define your terms. That is a sign that you cannot comprehend things outside of others' thoughts that you quote-mine.
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Ugh puhlease. Stop trolling and show some self-control.
 
I think this just once again shows you guys are not really interested in structured debate at all and that you would not like to contribute in any meaningful and purposive manner. Wonder why?
 
These biomolecular "machines", are they conscious?
 
cyghost said:
These biomolecular "machines", are they conscious?
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Demonstating admirably once again how you guys are not really interested in structured debate.
Go ahead, make your own threads to DEFINE how YOU GUYS understand what "minds" and "consciousness" are.
Structured please ;).
 
These biomolecular "machines", are they conscious? hmm?
 
cyghost said:
These biomolecular "machines", are they conscious? hmm?
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rwenzori said:
These biomolecular "machines", are they conscious? hmm?
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Demonstating admirably once again how you guys are not really interested in structured debate.
Go ahead, make your own threads to DEFINE how YOU GUYS understand what "minds" and "consciousness" are.
Structured please ;).
 
This is a question in a thread you started. You ducked this question in the other thread you started. Evasive is as evasive does.

Simple question. Pertinent to your precious thread:

These biomolecular "machines", are they conscious?
 
And the mindless trolling continues. Are you guys incapable of self-control and developing your own threads?
By giving YOUR understanding of "minds" and "consciousnes", that question can be discussed in ALL its glory. Not in this thread, I have asked you nicely.
Any further trolling will only demonstrated a complete lack of self-control. Unfortunately that can be understandable.
 
Hell phrony what are you making this difficult?

Are cells conscious? Do they dream, feel, get angry, sad, can they think abstractly. Can they make conscious plans, "it looks like rain, I'll take an umbrella"?

Why are you evading a simple question with an obvious answer? One would think you have something to hide?

Seeing as you abandoned the previous thread, and respecting your wishes, I'll go bump that thread now. I still believe it is pertinent to this thread as well.
 
cyghost said:
This is a question in a thread you started. You ducked this question in the other thread you started. Evasive is as evasive does.
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Yup! Strange claims, then non-stop ducking and diving when questioned. Pointless really, LOL!
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"Folding is one of the key steps for the health of the cell," Frydman said.

Virtually all proteins have to be folded-some in complex configurations-in order to function properly, and many are known to require a molecule called a chaperone to fold them. Frydman estimates that perhaps 10 percent of the proteins needing chaperones must have one that, like TRiC, is part of the subset called chaperonins. Other work done in Frydman's lab has shown that proteins that have very complex folds seem to require chaperonins.

"Many of the proteins that have these complex folds are the most important ones for life," Frydman said. "The proteins that control the cell cycle, tumor suppressers and the proteins that control the shape of the cell are dependent on chaperonins to get to the folded state.

"If the chaperones don't work well, then all these proteins that have been made become toxic," she said.
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http://folding.stanford.edu

What is protein folding and how is folding linked to disease?
Proteins are biology's workhorses -- its "nanomachines." Before proteins can carry out these important functions, they assemble themselves, or "fold." The process of protein folding, while critical and fundamental to virtually all of biology, in many ways remains a mystery.

Moreover, when proteins do not fold correctly (i.e. "misfold"), there can be serious consequences, including many well known diseases, such as Alzheimer's, Mad Cow (BSE), CJD, ALS, Huntington's, Parkinson's disease, and many Cancers and cancer-related syndromes.
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Yeah
 
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